Wow how did he come about getting into this lifestyle?I was 22-23 years old, my dad gave me the book the game when i was working security one day. Read the book, loved it, stumbled upon the community and than this forum, the rest is history
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Wow how did he come about getting into this lifestyle?I was 22-23 years old, my dad gave me the book the game when i was working security one day. Read the book, loved it, stumbled upon the community and than this forum, the rest is history
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
There is no blurring between the redpill and blackpill, as far as I've noticed. If you watch Rollo's content you'd conclude that his rather direct observations actually come from a place of humor and sometimes pity for women, and not resentment or hatred of women.I think the line between red and black pill is becoming more tenuous and blurred. It wasn't just those recurrent posters here, it's the higher levels of misogynist toxicity that I've noticed in seduction and men's improvement communities in general.
I define "red pill" (although I did not come up with the term) as understanding the biological mechanics of female behavior -- why they are turned off by neediness, why they are turned on by confidence, why they are attracted to taller men, why they are attracted to pre-selected men, why they nest with subservient men, why they leave betas for alphas, but also why they leave alphas for betas, etc.
Understanding, and accepting with grace, that these mechanics are always in play when dealing with women, is the how one succeeds with women -- learning to use those mechanics to your advantage in dating.
But a lot of 'red pill' circles are angry and resentful at those biological mechanics. Maybe that's considered "black pill" but I see a lot of resentful, bitter and downright misogynist material coming from self-professed red pill guys like Rich Cooper, Rollo Tomassi etc. The Rational Male is so underscored with resentment for women that one could not possibly view RT as a seducer who loves women. He sounds like a beta dude who's been burned by women over and over, and hates them for it. Is that what "taking the red pill" is? I hope not.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Thanks for your contributions BeE, it’s always a good thing to occasionally get your perspective on some important issues.Advice from the old lady:
I stumbled in here in 2015 at 46 years of age. I was searching the web for information about BPD because my boyfriend’s ex wife had been clinically diagnosed as such and was crazy AF. For a while I lurked quietly and read things, especially the BPD combined thread, which helped me better support my man and know that his situation was not isolated…
Then at some point a smug poster named @Ronaldo7 had a thread so over the top I had to chime in, so I joined. I’ve been around ever since. I’m here to give perspective, offer a different view, show the ladies’ playbook and rationale & support the development of solid masculine men. The world needs more real men out there. So I try and encourage & facilitate that in my own small way.
The forum seems to cycle to a degree regarding quality of content. There have always been quality posters, there have always been the hopelessly lost, there have been the occasional female around…most of the best posters eventually move on to other life endeavors, some folks get banned, and some periodically pop back in.
The search function is a great resource, especially for the casual lurkers or the newbies. There is great content from years past at the entry of a query, over and above the DJ Bible & Book of Pook.
There are cool men who hang out here. Quality guys giving their time & perspective from all over the world.
It’s pretty dam cool.
Cheers
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Don’t know how you get that. I enter sosuave forum or single word sosuave and it pops up immediately …Also, it has been basically delisted by Google.
Yes, I understand and found this forum in a similar manner. Something to consider though, a search term like ‘daddy issues’ could well be returning far more results than it did 8 years ago. Media expansion plus more issue attention…But if you search for a topic that is widely discussed here, the site never shows up. I found this website by describing certain actions that my BPD ex-girlfriend was doing
damn young man2021, 18 years old. Everything has changed, I notice the patterns more easily, and it's time for me to learn from people's experiences and be better, as well as share this wisdom among my male peers.
he gave you the book?I was 22-23 years old, my dad gave me the book the game when i was working security one day. Read the book, loved it, stumbled upon the community and than this forum, the rest is history
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Yes, he gave me the book while i was doing security work one night, read the whole book that night, like said, the rest is history. This was in 2009he gave you the book?
Forum: 2014 (24 years old)I was 22, I joined the same year I discovered the forum, 2013. I found this forum looking for answers about my lack of success with women and to overcome anxiety. A lot has changed since then. I eradicated my anxiety, worked through a bunch of other issues, started getting women and having sex again. In 2015 I started a LTR, in 2019 we got married and last year we got a son. My life is great.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.