"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
How Many Women?
- Thread starter Desdinova
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
On the other end of the spectrum, anything more than 2 would be overkill now. I would rather work towards making that first million than trying to date 3 chicks at the same time. 2 on the other hand could work out I think. But lets not get crazy, I need to get past that zero I was talking about earlier!
plan of action? Keep being social. I go out occasionally on weekends and mingle with friends of friends. I go to bike classes as well during the week. I find with every place I move to as a new person, it takes a while to acclimate. Everything is still in the acclimation phase.
The Mad Ghost
Senior Don Juan
Nygard
Senior Don Juan
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
spider_007
Master Don Juan
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
mustfirstregister
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After doing this for a while, having "plates" is no big deal, but I'm not dating anybody that's blowing my mind.Desdinova said:
That said, I have 2 girls on the go, plus another girl that moved clear across the country that is coming back soon that has some serious plans for us. I have zero girls that I'm actually interested in. I can't even remember the last time I asked a girl out, they ask me out. Cool thing is that they're up for anything. Doesn't get much easier than that.
Not that I'm even looking for a relationship or sex for that matter, but it would be nice to just meet a woman that was nice looking that isn't a nutjob or just a total airhead. An attractive, "quality" girl won't make me go AFC overnight or anything, but they are definitely a rare breed. When one comes along you realize how ridiculous it is to even be attracted to the typical american woman. And its even more ridiculous to look back to my younger days when I would daydream about girls. Now they daydream about me.
If you're a guy with zero options, period, then you have a lot to improve on. This has got to be maybe 10% of guys. But I think for most guys, there is some girl somewhere that is thinking about you right now. She may not be your ideal girl, but she is AFC over you nevertheless. Whether you think so or not, that IS an option for you, you're just deciding not take it. Nothing wrong with that, but take that into consideration if you're feeling crappy about your perceived lack of options. What you lack is "quality options". I think most of us lack that because quality is subjective. I think if you ever get to the point where you think you have a lot of quality options, then you should probably reassess your standards and your qualifying approach.
I'd be interested in hearing from guys that have 5+ plates and what they consider to actually be a "plate". If you are actually having sex with 5+ plates, then how often? And what's your motivation for doing it? To me that's a lot of time invested when I can take care of myself at home in just a few minutes and have zero complications or drama. I'm curious how much of your time is devoted to spinning these plates.
Nino-Tk
Master Don Juan
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Master Don Juan
damn i feel 21 all over again!
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.