"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
How Many Women?
- Thread starter Desdinova
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
On the other end of the spectrum, anything more than 2 would be overkill now. I would rather work towards making that first million than trying to date 3 chicks at the same time. 2 on the other hand could work out I think. But lets not get crazy, I need to get past that zero I was talking about earlier!
plan of action? Keep being social. I go out occasionally on weekends and mingle with friends of friends. I go to bike classes as well during the week. I find with every place I move to as a new person, it takes a while to acclimate. Everything is still in the acclimation phase.
The Mad Ghost
Senior Don Juan
Nygard
Senior Don Juan
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
spider_007
Master Don Juan
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
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After doing this for a while, having "plates" is no big deal, but I'm not dating anybody that's blowing my mind.Desdinova said:
That said, I have 2 girls on the go, plus another girl that moved clear across the country that is coming back soon that has some serious plans for us. I have zero girls that I'm actually interested in. I can't even remember the last time I asked a girl out, they ask me out. Cool thing is that they're up for anything. Doesn't get much easier than that.
Not that I'm even looking for a relationship or sex for that matter, but it would be nice to just meet a woman that was nice looking that isn't a nutjob or just a total airhead. An attractive, "quality" girl won't make me go AFC overnight or anything, but they are definitely a rare breed. When one comes along you realize how ridiculous it is to even be attracted to the typical american woman. And its even more ridiculous to look back to my younger days when I would daydream about girls. Now they daydream about me.
If you're a guy with zero options, period, then you have a lot to improve on. This has got to be maybe 10% of guys. But I think for most guys, there is some girl somewhere that is thinking about you right now. She may not be your ideal girl, but she is AFC over you nevertheless. Whether you think so or not, that IS an option for you, you're just deciding not take it. Nothing wrong with that, but take that into consideration if you're feeling crappy about your perceived lack of options. What you lack is "quality options". I think most of us lack that because quality is subjective. I think if you ever get to the point where you think you have a lot of quality options, then you should probably reassess your standards and your qualifying approach.
I'd be interested in hearing from guys that have 5+ plates and what they consider to actually be a "plate". If you are actually having sex with 5+ plates, then how often? And what's your motivation for doing it? To me that's a lot of time invested when I can take care of myself at home in just a few minutes and have zero complications or drama. I'm curious how much of your time is devoted to spinning these plates.
Nino-Tk
Master Don Juan
Serialized3
Master Don Juan
damn i feel 21 all over again!
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.