"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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how many oppurtunities do you have to impress a girl?

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how many chances do you have to impress a girl?

on average... how many dates would you say you have to really wow a girl before she loses interest totally... my guess would be between 1 and 3 (depending on the girl)...

what's the verdict here?
 
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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Yeah. But then if you cut contact and wait awhile, you usually can get a second chance.
 

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Bvbidd said:
Yeah. But then if you cut contact and wait awhile, you usually can get a second chance.
You know what I was thinking the same thing... any one else have an estimate to how many "chances" your given?
 

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Bvbidd said:
Yeah. But then if you cut contact and wait awhile, you usually can get a second chance.

Cutting contact and waiting a while won't increase her interest level IF it was low after date one. Shes already forgotten about you and dating other guys...
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I'm not talking about some random stranger and no it won't increase her interest level, She'll just give you another chance.
 

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The Sperminator said:
Usually one shot.
oh yea? just one shot?

i guess it all depends... what if you didn't "wow" her but she enjoyed herself and had a fun time?
 

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I never try to impress girls, I don't need to.
 

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Aren't you supposed to hope the girl will end up impressing you?
 

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reset stole the words right from my typing finger...
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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depend on the girl... if she's a slut and wants sex if you dont wow her the first time then you're done. but if she's a sweet girl, maybe it'll take some time to actually get to know someone, then perhaps you'll get more chances
 

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Aren't you supposed to hope the girl will end up impressing you?
i know i know, and i know your supposed to date as many girls as possible.. but if your particularly interested in one (just a healthy interest) you want to get their attention too...

i'm just wondering, how many dates are you capable of landing until the girl "nexts" you.. in other words your just not cutting it to her liking... (worst case scenario, obviously).. 1? 2?

and can you lay low for a little while and spark interest again down the road?
 

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You should think about it the other way around, you want the girl to wow you.

Your dates will go alot better if you think of it that way instead.
 

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NickSCFC2000 said:
You should think about it the other way around, you want the girl to wow you.

Your dates will go alot better if you think of it that way instead.
Advice taken! But, here's the thing... it wasn't like a blind date or anything.. I knew the girl pretty well... she finally broke things off with her boyfriend... and I took her out to dinner... so I kind of viewed it as my big chance...

and while things went pretty well and I'm sure she had a fun time (she contacted me first a few hours later, thanking me and saying she had a good time)... i doubt the "wow" factor was there (due to my nervousness, missing the ex, etc.)...

which is pretty much the basis of what i'm wondering here... are girls quick to give out second (or third) chances for you to steal their heart?
 

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If you sit on your ass and wait for her to impress you then she'll think your boring and move on.

Don't listen to these guys, they have no idea.

In the end, your still working for her pvssy. Sorry that's just how it works.

Thinking your so great doesn't do much if your not actually great.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Bvbidd said:
If you sit on your ass and wait for her to impress you then she'll think your boring and move on.

Don't listen to these guys, they have no idea.

In the end, your still working for her pvssy. Sorry that's just how it works.

Thinking your so great doesn't do much if your not actually great.
hey, if you don't mind, read what i posted above and let me know what you think i can do to increase my chances of a second date... maybe she has no problems with a second date at all and i'm just paranoid... right now, i'm just taking it easy... we both go to different colleges... so i contact her once every couple of weeks so she doesn't forget about me completely
 

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I think you can relax and that she'll do a second date. She sent you that txt out of nowhere. Just ask her along somewhere.
 

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Bvbidd said:
I think you can relax and that she'll do a second date. She sent you that txt out of nowhere. Just ask her along somewhere.
it was an IM, that still cool? i was away & idle.. it was like 11ish (we were done with dinner at 7) and i got it the next morning. she said "thank youuu i had a good time!!!" <-exclamation points and all

i've texted her since then and she's replied so perhaps it is all gravy..

thanks for the reassurance by the way

oh and anyone else with advice, feel free to drop some DJ knowledge
 

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After being in the game a while, my opinion has begun to resemble Bvbidd's;

If you sit on your ass and wait for her to impress you then she'll think your boring and move on.

Don't listen to these guys, they have no idea.

In the end, your still working for her pvssy. Sorry that's just how it works.

Thinking your so great doesn't do much if your not actually great.

You really have to do something, or the chick will just think your boring. It's all well and good to "be the prize", but you have to work your ass off to make the first attraction. Then worry about disinterest, and whatever.
 

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tsmith2334 said:
i know i know, and i know your supposed to date as many girls as possible..
I'm not just giving you stock answers here. It really IS about how they can impress you. When you qualify a girl, it sets you up as a challenge, and it makes it fun for her as she works to earn your attention.

Girls know right away if they want you or not, at least on that gut, primal level. You don't have to work your ass off at anything. That's just totally backwards.

Doing this stuff IS how you impress her. Don't ever qualify yourself to a girl. That's not how nature works.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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