just so suave
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3. You act on your desires...
"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
How many of You cheat in LTR ?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
MacAvoy
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4. You are unplugged from the matrixjust so suave said:3. You act on your desires...Blue Phoenix said:Cheating means two things:
1. Your low interest level in the girl
OR
2. Your low morals/values
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5. you DON`T have control of your desires
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Here are some FACTS... COLD AND HARD...
1. Most humans cheat..
2. Most humans lie bout cheating.
3. Because monogamy is not natural for humans
1. Most humans cheat..
2. Most humans lie bout cheating.
3. Because monogamy is not natural for humans
ready123
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I don't cheat, which is why it takes me forever to qualify the girl to know if I can make her a girlfriend. maybe if the frame between you guys is a swinger relationship it be alright but most guys don't even know what that's about
if you can't commit, whats the point of being in an LTR in the first place? the emotional bond is now a joke, you guys are gonna have trust issues like the OP, and it also means you can't empathize with her hurt enough to care. So there's really no point if having her in your life as a GIRLFRIEND
I think it's also kinda dumb when people backwards rationalizing cheating as something animals do in the wild. Humans have a self-consciousness that animals don't that allows us to make choices. We have desires but we can choose to act on the desires. There are a ton of people throughout my 29 years that gave me the desire to whoop their ass. If we were all animals in the wild and slaves to our desires, they'd all be dead
The other thing is cheating is always the result of the guy not having a clue what he wants. A guy can ALWAYS set a precedent at the beginning of the relationship and most girls are receptive to the frame. If he just wants to fvck he can do that, if he wants MLTR's, he can do that, if he wants an exclusive relationship, he can do that. He just has to set the precedent. Figure out what you want and stick with it
if you can't commit, whats the point of being in an LTR in the first place? the emotional bond is now a joke, you guys are gonna have trust issues like the OP, and it also means you can't empathize with her hurt enough to care. So there's really no point if having her in your life as a GIRLFRIEND
I think it's also kinda dumb when people backwards rationalizing cheating as something animals do in the wild. Humans have a self-consciousness that animals don't that allows us to make choices. We have desires but we can choose to act on the desires. There are a ton of people throughout my 29 years that gave me the desire to whoop their ass. If we were all animals in the wild and slaves to our desires, they'd all be dead
The other thing is cheating is always the result of the guy not having a clue what he wants. A guy can ALWAYS set a precedent at the beginning of the relationship and most girls are receptive to the frame. If he just wants to fvck he can do that, if he wants MLTR's, he can do that, if he wants an exclusive relationship, he can do that. He just has to set the precedent. Figure out what you want and stick with it
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
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And that will have no effect on the rate at which you get cheated on...ready123 said:I don't cheat,
No, never. I wouldn't commit myself to another person if I didn't intend to be faithful to her.MightyMate said:I do. What about You ?
Lord Shinra
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Wow, this thread went from like DJ to Whiny boys. WTF? Some cheat, some dont, No one judges to each their own.
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I second that!ready123 said:I don't cheat, which is why it takes me forever to qualify the girl to know if I can make her a girlfriend. maybe if the frame between you guys is a swinger relationship it be alright but most guys don't even know what that's about
if you can't commit, whats the point of being in an LTR in the first place? the emotional bond is now a joke, you guys are gonna have trust issues like the OP, and it also means you can't empathize with her hurt enough to care. So there's really no point if having her in your life as a GIRLFRIEND
I think it's also kinda dumb when people backwards rationalizing cheating as something animals do in the wild. Humans have a self-consciousness that animals don't that allows us to make choices. We have desires but we can choose to act on the desires. There are a ton of people throughout my 29 years that gave me the desire to whoop their ass. If we were all animals in the wild and slaves to our desires, they'd all be dead
The other thing is cheating is always the result of the guy not having a clue what he wants. A guy can ALWAYS set a precedent at the beginning of the relationship and most girls are receptive to the frame. If he just wants to fvck he can do that, if he wants MLTR's, he can do that, if he wants an exclusive relationship, he can do that. He just has to set the precedent. Figure out what you want and stick with it
ready123
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of course not, but I wasn't even trying to go thereDonGorgon said:And that will have no effect on the rate at which you get cheated on...
the thing is if I get burnt I don't throw a tantrum and whine about it, I just move on. some of you guys think getting cheated on is the WORST thing that could happen to you in life so half your game is trying to figure out ways to keep yourself from getting burnt so you don't have to experience those emotions
get some thicker skin
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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interesting angle... but the inflated and sensitive human ego begs to differ.ready123 said:of course not, but I wasn't even trying to go there
the thing is if I get burnt I don't throw a tantrum and whine about it, I just move on. some of you guys think getting cheated on is the WORST thing that could happen to you in life so half your game is trying to figure out ways to keep yourself from getting burnt so you don't have to experience those emotions
get some thicker skin
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I haven't cheated in a LTR because i haven't been in a LTR, longest my relationships last lately is 4 months. I'll probably end up cheating in the future but there is one rule which has to be satisfied or its not worth it.
They or people they know can NEVER know about it.
If that rule can't be guaranteed then it is not worth it, the amount of hurt a partner gets from someone cheating is terrible.
They or people they know can NEVER know about it.
If that rule can't be guaranteed then it is not worth it, the amount of hurt a partner gets from someone cheating is terrible.
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Thats true and its amazing how many people still cheat even though it hurts so much...LOLChillisauce said:the amount of hurt a partner gets from someone cheating is terrible.