just so suave
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3. You act on your desires...
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
How many of You cheat in LTR ?
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
MacAvoy
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4. You are unplugged from the matrixjust so suave said:3. You act on your desires...Blue Phoenix said:Cheating means two things:
1. Your low interest level in the girl
OR
2. Your low morals/values
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5. you DON`T have control of your desires
DonGorgon
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Here are some FACTS... COLD AND HARD...
1. Most humans cheat..
2. Most humans lie bout cheating.
3. Because monogamy is not natural for humans
1. Most humans cheat..
2. Most humans lie bout cheating.
3. Because monogamy is not natural for humans
ready123
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I don't cheat, which is why it takes me forever to qualify the girl to know if I can make her a girlfriend. maybe if the frame between you guys is a swinger relationship it be alright but most guys don't even know what that's about
if you can't commit, whats the point of being in an LTR in the first place? the emotional bond is now a joke, you guys are gonna have trust issues like the OP, and it also means you can't empathize with her hurt enough to care. So there's really no point if having her in your life as a GIRLFRIEND
I think it's also kinda dumb when people backwards rationalizing cheating as something animals do in the wild. Humans have a self-consciousness that animals don't that allows us to make choices. We have desires but we can choose to act on the desires. There are a ton of people throughout my 29 years that gave me the desire to whoop their ass. If we were all animals in the wild and slaves to our desires, they'd all be dead
The other thing is cheating is always the result of the guy not having a clue what he wants. A guy can ALWAYS set a precedent at the beginning of the relationship and most girls are receptive to the frame. If he just wants to fvck he can do that, if he wants MLTR's, he can do that, if he wants an exclusive relationship, he can do that. He just has to set the precedent. Figure out what you want and stick with it
if you can't commit, whats the point of being in an LTR in the first place? the emotional bond is now a joke, you guys are gonna have trust issues like the OP, and it also means you can't empathize with her hurt enough to care. So there's really no point if having her in your life as a GIRLFRIEND
I think it's also kinda dumb when people backwards rationalizing cheating as something animals do in the wild. Humans have a self-consciousness that animals don't that allows us to make choices. We have desires but we can choose to act on the desires. There are a ton of people throughout my 29 years that gave me the desire to whoop their ass. If we were all animals in the wild and slaves to our desires, they'd all be dead
The other thing is cheating is always the result of the guy not having a clue what he wants. A guy can ALWAYS set a precedent at the beginning of the relationship and most girls are receptive to the frame. If he just wants to fvck he can do that, if he wants MLTR's, he can do that, if he wants an exclusive relationship, he can do that. He just has to set the precedent. Figure out what you want and stick with it
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
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And that will have no effect on the rate at which you get cheated on...ready123 said:I don't cheat,
No, never. I wouldn't commit myself to another person if I didn't intend to be faithful to her.MightyMate said:I do. What about You ?
Lord Shinra
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Wow, this thread went from like DJ to Whiny boys. WTF? Some cheat, some dont, No one judges to each their own.
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I second that!ready123 said:I don't cheat, which is why it takes me forever to qualify the girl to know if I can make her a girlfriend. maybe if the frame between you guys is a swinger relationship it be alright but most guys don't even know what that's about
if you can't commit, whats the point of being in an LTR in the first place? the emotional bond is now a joke, you guys are gonna have trust issues like the OP, and it also means you can't empathize with her hurt enough to care. So there's really no point if having her in your life as a GIRLFRIEND
I think it's also kinda dumb when people backwards rationalizing cheating as something animals do in the wild. Humans have a self-consciousness that animals don't that allows us to make choices. We have desires but we can choose to act on the desires. There are a ton of people throughout my 29 years that gave me the desire to whoop their ass. If we were all animals in the wild and slaves to our desires, they'd all be dead
The other thing is cheating is always the result of the guy not having a clue what he wants. A guy can ALWAYS set a precedent at the beginning of the relationship and most girls are receptive to the frame. If he just wants to fvck he can do that, if he wants MLTR's, he can do that, if he wants an exclusive relationship, he can do that. He just has to set the precedent. Figure out what you want and stick with it
ready123
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of course not, but I wasn't even trying to go thereDonGorgon said:And that will have no effect on the rate at which you get cheated on...
the thing is if I get burnt I don't throw a tantrum and whine about it, I just move on. some of you guys think getting cheated on is the WORST thing that could happen to you in life so half your game is trying to figure out ways to keep yourself from getting burnt so you don't have to experience those emotions
get some thicker skin
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
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interesting angle... but the inflated and sensitive human ego begs to differ.ready123 said:of course not, but I wasn't even trying to go there
the thing is if I get burnt I don't throw a tantrum and whine about it, I just move on. some of you guys think getting cheated on is the WORST thing that could happen to you in life so half your game is trying to figure out ways to keep yourself from getting burnt so you don't have to experience those emotions
get some thicker skin
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I haven't cheated in a LTR because i haven't been in a LTR, longest my relationships last lately is 4 months. I'll probably end up cheating in the future but there is one rule which has to be satisfied or its not worth it.
They or people they know can NEVER know about it.
If that rule can't be guaranteed then it is not worth it, the amount of hurt a partner gets from someone cheating is terrible.
They or people they know can NEVER know about it.
If that rule can't be guaranteed then it is not worth it, the amount of hurt a partner gets from someone cheating is terrible.
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Thats true and its amazing how many people still cheat even though it hurts so much...LOLChillisauce said:the amount of hurt a partner gets from someone cheating is terrible.