"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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How many of You cheat in LTR ?

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Cheating means two things:

1. Your low interest level in the girl
OR
2. Your low morals/values
3. You act on your desires...
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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5. you DON`T have control of your desires
 

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I don't cheat, which is why it takes me forever to qualify the girl to know if I can make her a girlfriend. maybe if the frame between you guys is a swinger relationship it be alright but most guys don't even know what that's about

if you can't commit, whats the point of being in an LTR in the first place? the emotional bond is now a joke, you guys are gonna have trust issues like the OP, and it also means you can't empathize with her hurt enough to care. So there's really no point if having her in your life as a GIRLFRIEND

I think it's also kinda dumb when people backwards rationalizing cheating as something animals do in the wild. Humans have a self-consciousness that animals don't that allows us to make choices. We have desires but we can choose to act on the desires. There are a ton of people throughout my 29 years that gave me the desire to whoop their ass. If we were all animals in the wild and slaves to our desires, they'd all be dead

The other thing is cheating is always the result of the guy not having a clue what he wants. A guy can ALWAYS set a precedent at the beginning of the relationship and most girls are receptive to the frame. If he just wants to fvck he can do that, if he wants MLTR's, he can do that, if he wants an exclusive relationship, he can do that. He just has to set the precedent. Figure out what you want and stick with it
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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MightyMate said:
I do. What about You ?
No, never. I wouldn't commit myself to another person if I didn't intend to be faithful to her.
 

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Wow, this thread went from like DJ to Whiny boys. WTF? Some cheat, some dont, No one judges to each their own.
 

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ready123 said:
I don't cheat, which is why it takes me forever to qualify the girl to know if I can make her a girlfriend. maybe if the frame between you guys is a swinger relationship it be alright but most guys don't even know what that's about

if you can't commit, whats the point of being in an LTR in the first place? the emotional bond is now a joke, you guys are gonna have trust issues like the OP, and it also means you can't empathize with her hurt enough to care. So there's really no point if having her in your life as a GIRLFRIEND

I think it's also kinda dumb when people backwards rationalizing cheating as something animals do in the wild. Humans have a self-consciousness that animals don't that allows us to make choices. We have desires but we can choose to act on the desires. There are a ton of people throughout my 29 years that gave me the desire to whoop their ass. If we were all animals in the wild and slaves to our desires, they'd all be dead

The other thing is cheating is always the result of the guy not having a clue what he wants. A guy can ALWAYS set a precedent at the beginning of the relationship and most girls are receptive to the frame. If he just wants to fvck he can do that, if he wants MLTR's, he can do that, if he wants an exclusive relationship, he can do that. He just has to set the precedent. Figure out what you want and stick with it
I second that!
 

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DonGorgon said:
And that will have no effect on the rate at which you get cheated on...
of course not, but I wasn't even trying to go there

the thing is if I get burnt I don't throw a tantrum and whine about it, I just move on. some of you guys think getting cheated on is the WORST thing that could happen to you in life so half your game is trying to figure out ways to keep yourself from getting burnt so you don't have to experience those emotions

get some thicker skin
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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ready123 said:
of course not, but I wasn't even trying to go there

the thing is if I get burnt I don't throw a tantrum and whine about it, I just move on. some of you guys think getting cheated on is the WORST thing that could happen to you in life so half your game is trying to figure out ways to keep yourself from getting burnt so you don't have to experience those emotions

get some thicker skin
interesting angle... but the inflated and sensitive human ego begs to differ.
 

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I haven't cheated in a LTR because i haven't been in a LTR, longest my relationships last lately is 4 months. I'll probably end up cheating in the future but there is one rule which has to be satisfied or its not worth it.

They or people they know can NEVER know about it.

If that rule can't be guaranteed then it is not worth it, the amount of hurt a partner gets from someone cheating is terrible.
 
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