"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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How many of You cheat in LTR ?

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Cheating means two things:

1. Your low interest level in the girl
OR
2. Your low morals/values
3. You act on your desires...
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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5. you DON`T have control of your desires
 

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I don't cheat, which is why it takes me forever to qualify the girl to know if I can make her a girlfriend. maybe if the frame between you guys is a swinger relationship it be alright but most guys don't even know what that's about

if you can't commit, whats the point of being in an LTR in the first place? the emotional bond is now a joke, you guys are gonna have trust issues like the OP, and it also means you can't empathize with her hurt enough to care. So there's really no point if having her in your life as a GIRLFRIEND

I think it's also kinda dumb when people backwards rationalizing cheating as something animals do in the wild. Humans have a self-consciousness that animals don't that allows us to make choices. We have desires but we can choose to act on the desires. There are a ton of people throughout my 29 years that gave me the desire to whoop their ass. If we were all animals in the wild and slaves to our desires, they'd all be dead

The other thing is cheating is always the result of the guy not having a clue what he wants. A guy can ALWAYS set a precedent at the beginning of the relationship and most girls are receptive to the frame. If he just wants to fvck he can do that, if he wants MLTR's, he can do that, if he wants an exclusive relationship, he can do that. He just has to set the precedent. Figure out what you want and stick with it
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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MightyMate said:
I do. What about You ?
No, never. I wouldn't commit myself to another person if I didn't intend to be faithful to her.
 

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Wow, this thread went from like DJ to Whiny boys. WTF? Some cheat, some dont, No one judges to each their own.
 

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ready123 said:
I don't cheat, which is why it takes me forever to qualify the girl to know if I can make her a girlfriend. maybe if the frame between you guys is a swinger relationship it be alright but most guys don't even know what that's about

if you can't commit, whats the point of being in an LTR in the first place? the emotional bond is now a joke, you guys are gonna have trust issues like the OP, and it also means you can't empathize with her hurt enough to care. So there's really no point if having her in your life as a GIRLFRIEND

I think it's also kinda dumb when people backwards rationalizing cheating as something animals do in the wild. Humans have a self-consciousness that animals don't that allows us to make choices. We have desires but we can choose to act on the desires. There are a ton of people throughout my 29 years that gave me the desire to whoop their ass. If we were all animals in the wild and slaves to our desires, they'd all be dead

The other thing is cheating is always the result of the guy not having a clue what he wants. A guy can ALWAYS set a precedent at the beginning of the relationship and most girls are receptive to the frame. If he just wants to fvck he can do that, if he wants MLTR's, he can do that, if he wants an exclusive relationship, he can do that. He just has to set the precedent. Figure out what you want and stick with it
I second that!
 

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DonGorgon said:
And that will have no effect on the rate at which you get cheated on...
of course not, but I wasn't even trying to go there

the thing is if I get burnt I don't throw a tantrum and whine about it, I just move on. some of you guys think getting cheated on is the WORST thing that could happen to you in life so half your game is trying to figure out ways to keep yourself from getting burnt so you don't have to experience those emotions

get some thicker skin
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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ready123 said:
of course not, but I wasn't even trying to go there

the thing is if I get burnt I don't throw a tantrum and whine about it, I just move on. some of you guys think getting cheated on is the WORST thing that could happen to you in life so half your game is trying to figure out ways to keep yourself from getting burnt so you don't have to experience those emotions

get some thicker skin
interesting angle... but the inflated and sensitive human ego begs to differ.
 

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I haven't cheated in a LTR because i haven't been in a LTR, longest my relationships last lately is 4 months. I'll probably end up cheating in the future but there is one rule which has to be satisfied or its not worth it.

They or people they know can NEVER know about it.

If that rule can't be guaranteed then it is not worth it, the amount of hurt a partner gets from someone cheating is terrible.
 
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