"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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How long is too long?

Blood Angel

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Just out of curiosity - in your opinion, how long can you wait to call a girl who gave you her number before calling her up isn't really an option anymore?

I ask because I managed to get my first number from a cold approach :)rockon: ) maybe three weeks ago now. I knew the girl already from elementary school (and we attended the same high school, though we'd never been close), but I've yet to get in touch with her.

So is it worth calling her up, or should I not bother?

Thanks!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Deadly_Ripped

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Let's say I get a number on a Friday night, I'll give myself until Sunday the following week to call. If I haven't called by then, then I must not have been that interested in the first place.

I almost never take a number unless it's either a)offered or b)I fully intend to call mid-week the following week or that coming weekend.
 

cola

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Blood Angel said:
Just out of curiosity - in your opinion, how long can you wait to call a girl who gave you her number before calling her up isn't really an option anymore?

I ask because I managed to get my first number from a cold approach :)rockon: ) maybe three weeks ago now. I knew the girl already from elementary school (and we attended the same high school, though we'd never been close), but I've yet to get in touch with her.

So is it worth calling her up, or should I not bother?

Thanks!
Stop following these stupid rules. You call her when you have time. If its 3 weeks later or 3 months later..
 

Ease

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sounds very long.

3-5 days is usually a good amount of time.

But from a cold approach you might want to build some more rapport before u ask out for a first meet, so keep in mind.
 

Blood Angel

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cola said:
Stop following these stupid rules. You call her when you have time. If its 3 weeks later or 3 months later..
I was asking because I wasn't sure if it'd make her uncomfortable or something.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Al Moh.

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Don't turn this into rocket-science. So you still want to get in touch with her? Then call her, the worst she can do is hang up on you and you will not see her again. If you don't call at all you walk right into the worst case scenario.
 
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