"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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How Did This Second Date Conversation Go?

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Another UPDATE

So she came over again last night to watch a movie with me, half way through my c0ck ended up in her mouth.

Smashed all night.

Picked up a few more red flags.. This time a male friend is coming to stay with her, so she is looking to buy a bed, so he can sleep in the spare room.

This one is a walking talking red flag..

Anyhow going to arrange another sex date for next weekend and maybe push towards a threesome with her.

Nice girl, but she has TOTALLY ruled herself out of anything more than being my cvm dumpster.

Seriously how come chicks make it so obvious how damaged they are?

You would think they would try to keep it hidden.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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soulforge

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This chick is a strange one.

Again on the weekend I smashed the hell out of her.. She was all over me, kissing and cuddling me etc.

Again not a single text message from her, other than the one I sent her the other day to arrange another date.

I'm just going to keep arranging sex dates with her. And won't bother texting her anything in between.

I get the feeling, if I stopped making ALL the effort, she would just drop off.

Hoes operate on an all together DGAF level these days.
 

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This chick is a strange one.

Again on the weekend I smashed the hell out of her.. She was all over me, kissing and cuddling me etc.

Again not a single text message from her, other than the one I sent her the other day to arrange another date.

I'm just going to keep arranging sex dates with her. And won't bother texting her anything in between.

I get the feeling, if I stopped making ALL the effort, she would just drop off.

Hoes operate on an all together DGAF level these days.
Probably because she has other guys doing the same thing you are. Why should she put in effort if she’s being catered to?
 

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Probably because she has other guys doing the same thing you are. Why should she put in effort if she’s being catered to?
You could be right on this.. I've had plates before who would hit you up, once a while.. But this one goes totally off the grid.

At what point does this become a matter of self respect?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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You could be right on this.. I've had plates before who would hit you up, once a while.. But this one goes totally off the grid.

At what point does this become a matter of self respect?
If you want someone who reaches out as much as you are - even if it is purely sexual - then this isn’t the right woman for you in a roster. Plus, all the flags you mention, they matter to you.
So at what point does this become a matter of self respect? It becomes one when you allow things to go against your values.
 

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You keep repeating she’s a *** dumpster/pump and dump, then moaning she’s not texting you first?

You either like her more than you’re letting on (very likely) or just very needy/not sure how a pump and dump works.

What do you really want from this girl? I thought it was sex, which you’re getting. Why do you care if her interest is obv low?
 

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You keep repeating she’s a *** dumpster/pump and dump, then moaning she’s not texting you first?

You either like her more than you’re letting on (very likely) or just very needy/not sure how a pump and dump works.

What do you really want from this girl? I thought it was sex, which you’re getting. Why do you care if her interest is obv low?
It’s damaging his ego
 

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You keep repeating she’s a *** dumpster/pump and dump, then moaning she’s not texting you first?

You either like her more than you’re letting on (very likely) or just very needy/not sure how a pump and dump works.

What do you really want from this girl? I thought it was sex, which you’re getting. Why do you care if her interest is obv low?
I just want to continue fukin her man.. NOTHING else.. However I feel like a dik for doing all the texting.

Kinda goes against my principles.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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At what point does this become a matter of self respect?
When she stops fvcking, replying, or starts putting you 2nd, flaking, being late or playing games.

By all standards this woman is a dream, she fcks without fcking brain.

You keep screening her for relationship material, alpha male.**sarcasm**
 
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