"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How Did This Second Date Conversation Go?

soulforge

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Another UPDATE

So she came over again last night to watch a movie with me, half way through my c0ck ended up in her mouth.

Smashed all night.

Picked up a few more red flags.. This time a male friend is coming to stay with her, so she is looking to buy a bed, so he can sleep in the spare room.

This one is a walking talking red flag..

Anyhow going to arrange another sex date for next weekend and maybe push towards a threesome with her.

Nice girl, but she has TOTALLY ruled herself out of anything more than being my cvm dumpster.

Seriously how come chicks make it so obvious how damaged they are?

You would think they would try to keep it hidden.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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soulforge

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This chick is a strange one.

Again on the weekend I smashed the hell out of her.. She was all over me, kissing and cuddling me etc.

Again not a single text message from her, other than the one I sent her the other day to arrange another date.

I'm just going to keep arranging sex dates with her. And won't bother texting her anything in between.

I get the feeling, if I stopped making ALL the effort, she would just drop off.

Hoes operate on an all together DGAF level these days.
 

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This chick is a strange one.

Again on the weekend I smashed the hell out of her.. She was all over me, kissing and cuddling me etc.

Again not a single text message from her, other than the one I sent her the other day to arrange another date.

I'm just going to keep arranging sex dates with her. And won't bother texting her anything in between.

I get the feeling, if I stopped making ALL the effort, she would just drop off.

Hoes operate on an all together DGAF level these days.
Probably because she has other guys doing the same thing you are. Why should she put in effort if she’s being catered to?
 

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Probably because she has other guys doing the same thing you are. Why should she put in effort if she’s being catered to?
You could be right on this.. I've had plates before who would hit you up, once a while.. But this one goes totally off the grid.

At what point does this become a matter of self respect?
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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You could be right on this.. I've had plates before who would hit you up, once a while.. But this one goes totally off the grid.

At what point does this become a matter of self respect?
If you want someone who reaches out as much as you are - even if it is purely sexual - then this isn’t the right woman for you in a roster. Plus, all the flags you mention, they matter to you.
So at what point does this become a matter of self respect? It becomes one when you allow things to go against your values.
 

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You keep repeating she’s a *** dumpster/pump and dump, then moaning she’s not texting you first?

You either like her more than you’re letting on (very likely) or just very needy/not sure how a pump and dump works.

What do you really want from this girl? I thought it was sex, which you’re getting. Why do you care if her interest is obv low?
 

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You keep repeating she’s a *** dumpster/pump and dump, then moaning she’s not texting you first?

You either like her more than you’re letting on (very likely) or just very needy/not sure how a pump and dump works.

What do you really want from this girl? I thought it was sex, which you’re getting. Why do you care if her interest is obv low?
It’s damaging his ego
 

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You keep repeating she’s a *** dumpster/pump and dump, then moaning she’s not texting you first?

You either like her more than you’re letting on (very likely) or just very needy/not sure how a pump and dump works.

What do you really want from this girl? I thought it was sex, which you’re getting. Why do you care if her interest is obv low?
I just want to continue fukin her man.. NOTHING else.. However I feel like a dik for doing all the texting.

Kinda goes against my principles.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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At what point does this become a matter of self respect?
When she stops fvcking, replying, or starts putting you 2nd, flaking, being late or playing games.

By all standards this woman is a dream, she fcks without fcking brain.

You keep screening her for relationship material, alpha male.**sarcasm**
 
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