Her Going Feminine

[DEEZEDBRAH]

masculine is a single point of light. Not a heard mentality driven impetus.

Masculine is the definition of creativity. Survival. It can survive independently. Unlike the feminine. The masculine optimizes survival for all. Other men, women, children etc. women are drawn to masculine.

You working on being masculine has nothing to do with women. Masculine does not live in or acknowledge the feminine imperative. You are applying it incorrectly.
You can apply this to electrical engineering. Current is a potentiality. It has the potential to flow but it doesn’t mean that it necessarily is flowing.

Man, in a masculine state, is a potentiality. He exists weather anything else exists or is real or not.

As you already established, there's no point in discussing with a giy whp has a theory but never seen a vagina before lulz!

It makes doing the robbery far too easy. He argued against dudes having options.

I blame low testosterone and bbc cuck porn.

 

[Epic Days]

So you define Masculine as being creative, innovative, providential, and able to survive independently. Am I understanding you correctly?

You can if you want to word it that way. There’s leadership the more masculine a man is. It’s not something he sets out to be. It’s a natural progression of individuality.
In actuality it’s a state of being that he doesn’t really think about. A culmination of his individual traits.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Unless you're speaking in purely abstract, philosophical terms, things like "masculinity" is pretty useless unless you can measure it, cultivate it and chart your progress.

otherwise it's just forum chest beating, and guys who allude to "know" what this strange term is are the only ones who possess it.

So, to all the guys who profess to know what "masculinity" is, how EXACTLY, would you recommend one go about strengthening it?

What specific techniques would you recommend to build it?

How would you recommend one measure their progress?

If some guy were to offer you $1,000,000 to be their masculinity coach, what exercises would you recommend, and how would the client know he was getting his money's worth?

 

[Spaz]

So you define Masculine as being creative, innovative, providential, and able to survive independently. Am I understanding you correctly?

Masculinity comes in different shapes and forms as it progresses forward in time but it's essence or basic form always remains the same.

If we were to turn back the clock and look back in time to ur own caveman ancestors, they were always preoccupied with running faster, throwing spears better, overcoming harsh conditions, being smarter then other predators of their time, creating fires, stone weaponry, brave, fearless, expanding their range by being adventurous, etc.

So it's just basically faster, better, smarter, fearless, creativeness, adventurous, bravery, skillful, etc.

In the modern context, if a young boy is being imbued with those simple basic traits I mentioned above, would he not likely be great once he achieved adulthood ?

And would he not be highly sought after by women for he is way above par then most men ?

Edit : @taiyuu_otoko did I sufficiently address ur post?

If not, I'd be more then happy to explain it further.

 

[Spaz]

Oh yeah, I'm curious, if ur ancestors were so basic by today's standards how is it that many of you here, right now posting in this very thread don't even have the basics?

Now ain't that shameful...

 

[speed dawg]

Unless you're speaking in purely abstract, philosophical terms, things like "masculinity" is pretty useless unless you can measure it, cultivate it and chart your progress.

otherwise it's just forum chest beating, and guys who allude to "know" what this strange term is are the only ones who possess it.

So, to all the guys who profess to know what "masculinity" is, how EXACTLY, would you recommend one go about strengthening it?

What specific techniques would you recommend to build it?

How would you recommend one measure their progress?

If some guy were to offer you $1,000,000 to be their masculinity coach, what exercises would you recommend, and how would the client know he was getting his money's worth?

Some good things in this thread, but I want to hit on this sort of thing a little more.

I am often consumed by my thoughts regarding why any of this stuff even matters. Therefore I am always trying to come up with 'masculine' activities and goals myself, in some attempt to be self-aware. All I'm finding is that there is making money and hobbies. Pretty much all futile to me.

But I'm pretty cynical in general. And let me be clear....cynicism and negativity are NOT good qualities. I have to fight against them daily.

 

[guru1000]

I've never spoken on here how I attained manhood which is exactly what masculinity is.

Manhood is not the coming of age in physical years or in other words being 21 years old.

In my case manhood or masculinity was molded by a group of men into a group of boys within a tribe.

In other words, a man can only be considered a man when acknowledged by men of stature who has already attained it.

The coming of age or initiation is complete when I was branded with 2 sets of tattoos on both shoulders, this is after being thought to be in harmony within the rainforest, skills on hunting, weapons training, spiritual training, warfare training, etc.

I was 10 when I was acknowledged as a man by my mentors.

From there it was expected that I wander the jungle away from my tribe alone to other tribes or societies to learn and bring back knowledge.

Which is why I've travelled the world, working in various countries, its part of my culture, my upbringing.

And I do very well in pubs or in any country I'm in.

Masculinity is being in harmony in one's manhood.

Yet you're still a child. LOL. Go back to your mentors and bring them to me.

 

[Spaz]

Yet you're still a child. LOL. Go back to your mentors and bring them to me.

Is this ur attempt at play acting a dominant role?

I bet it took you a couple of hours or even a full day practising that in front of ur full scale mirror.

 

[guru1000]

Is this ur attempt at play acting a dominant role?

I bet it took you a couple of hours or even a full day practising that in front of ur full scale mirror.

Implicit in this is that:

1) You are the arbiter of who is and who is not dominant. Though, truly dominant men are not pounding their chest on the Internet with 5000+ posts in less than a year trying to prove they are LOL. Rather they are handling their business in real life and do not speak incessantly about their or others dominance or lack thereof;

2) To not be dominant is a lesser of. And so your whole Expressive thread naming various posters was intended to demean them. And this is coming from a dominant being who is grounded in who he is? LOL

The the deeper we go into the rabbit hole, the funnier you become.

 

[Spaz]

Implicit in this is that:

1) You are the arbiter of who is and who is not dominant. Though, truly dominant men are not pounding their chest on the Internet with 5000+ posts in less than a year trying to prove they are LOL. Rather they are handling their business in real life and do not speak incessantly about their or others dominance or lack thereof;

2) To not be dominant is a lesser of. And so your whole Expressive thread naming various posters was intended to demean them. And this is coming from a dominant being who is grounded in who he is? LOL

The the deeper we go into the rabbit hole, the funnier you become.

You sound hurt.

Was Spaz the bad boy who did it?

 

[guru1000]

You sound hurt.

Was Spaz the bad boy who did it?

Attack logic with emotion. Smart move. I would do the same against me.

 

[Spaz]

Attack logic with emotion. Smart move. I would do the same against me.

You still sound hurt.

What can Spaz do to ease that pain?

 

[guru1000]

You still sound hurt.

What can Spaz do to ease that pain?

More (il)logical spaz(ms)? Come on, let's get the notch count up to 7000.

 

[Spaz]

More (il)logical spaz(ms)? Come on, let's get the notch count up to 7000.

That hurt must be real bad to start mirroring brixbaby and naughty ninja emotional meltdowns.

 

[fastlife]

You can if you want to word it that way. There’s leadership the more masculine a man is. It’s not something he sets out to be. It’s a natural progression of individuality.
In actuality it’s a state of being that he doesn’t really think about. A culmination of his individual traits.

Something definite, that's progress. Leadership is something guys can go out and practice and observe the effects of. Still not quite accurate though--since leaders of men can still be b1tches when it comes to women. But social dominance is a trait that I can get behind. It holds up.

So, putting things together from your posts ITT, your definition masculinity includes:

• Social dominance
• Individuality/Ability to stand up to social pressure
• Unreactiveness
• Provisioning Potential--irrelevant for attraction, but useful if you want to do the family thing or for your own happiness

Notice that all of these traits are tangible behaviors that guys can go out and practice. Masculinity isn't some woo woo, mysticism that you have to learn from a tribe in the jungle. If learning these things required tremendous pain on your end (and some of them did for me), then it's just because we didn't learn them efficiently, since no one bothered teaching them to you. It doesn't have to be.

Next time a guy looks to you for guidance, try telling them to practice one of these behaviors or work on building the mindset behind them and you may actually help them. But this whole, "You're close," "You don't get it," "I can't define it," abstract stuff is bullsh1t. No matter how much your buddies, who are equally vague, circle jerk you. Feel free to label me with some HR personality assessment that's somewhere between the zodiac and the Meyers Brigg if that makes you feel better.

And I'll add to our definition of masculinity: The ability to get what you want. That includes sex for most guys. So let's not shame guys for taking definite, measurable steps to get that. And that doesn't have to involve investing years in a job he hates or going on a hero's journey or building some sick lifestyle. If you can't give him that type of advice, stand back and let people who can help him out.

 

[Epic Days]

Well that was interesting. Lol

I guess @Spaz ’s previous comments on online dating and the swiping apps and the guys who use them had a bite to it.

 

[Spaz]

Well that was interesting. Lol

I guess @Spaz ’s previous comments on online dating and the swiping apps and the guys who use them had a bite to it.

I attract femininity in all forms.

 

[Epic Days]

Leadership is something guys can go out and practice and observe the effects of.

Where did you learn this?

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Where did you learn this?

Do you disagree that leadership is a skill that can be improved upon?

Or are you trying to convince us that leadership is something ALL men have, in equal measure OR that only certain men have?

 

[Spaz]

Not necessarily. You're falling into a potential trap when you think "I did x,y,z, therefore, I should attract women."

This is the fundamental difference of opinion in this thread.

I agree 100% that a man should follow his own path, on his own terms, and not be a slave to the feminine imperative.

But I don't conflate the feminine imperative with the fact that a man still has to approach and seduce females. Having stripes on your sleeve will get you some attention, but pursuing your life's goals and then waiting for the pu$$y to roll in isn't a plan for getting what you want. In other words, be your own man, but take action with women just as you do with career, lifestyle, hobbies, self-improvement, etc.

I don't often cite Rollo, but he put it well (if a bit straw-man-ish - and no I'm not calling you "haters"):

16. Dancing Monkey Hate

Hater: Men who run game are just doing the bidding of women. Alphas don’t entertain women.

If you want success with women, you are going to have to entertain them… one way or the other...We are all doing the bidding of our biomechanical overlord, and on our knees to his will we surrender, by force or by choice. You fool yourself if you believe you have some plenary indulgence from this stark reality.

Or: If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em.

I don't think this subject is binary. Both sides can be right. Women will CERTAINLY auto-tune themselves to their feminine level around a masculine, attractive man. But it's a harsh biological reality that women are the gatekeepers of sex. This is not the "feminine imperative," it's an evolutionary fact whether you like it or not. Your ability to make her vagina tingle is the proof in the pudding (gross metaphor but you get what I mean). Whether that happened through your social dominance, income level, notoriety, etc. or just the way you looked her in the eye and what you said, or some combination thereof. She might make it all kinds of easy for you, but you as a man still have to navigate the shoals, and a lot of otherwise-masculine men are ignorant about how to do this. And some of us with plenty of knowledge and experience still mess it up sometimes. That's why this site exists.

This is why I singled out the "all our ancestors procreated" point earlier. It always has something to do with women, as all the posts in this thread prove.

When I say above par it means it's a confluence of traits within masculinity.

Does it guarantee women will spread their legs?

No.

But it is more then likely, the probability will be higher that he attracts women to his side in all settings because like you said its biological.

Women on a deep level are more attracted to masculine man. For example, if you display a big muscled body but scream like a girl when a rat passes by or cries like baby when u r emotionally hurt then attraction will automatically be muted.

As for Rollo, his worldview is from an expressive/passive - through his own experiences or through his own lens.

For him entertaining women's whims and fancies might be the order of the day.

And for many here, game is a step by step process of being a seducer.

But for me, game is just frame, my sum total, and its women who seduces me which is basically the only thing I know.

You hardly see me posting a step by step ritual because I truly don't know how, maybe a little, maybe subconsciously but it all comes from a confluence of masculine traits.

I most certainly don't go out looking pretty, nor the need for certain hairsprays nor a certain type of dressing nor use tricks that in all actuality to me is just preying on women's insecurities.