"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
idiot_boyfriend
Senior Don Juan
Tomorrow, walk right up to her and ask her out.
Has she shown interest in you?
idiot_boyfriend
Senior Don Juan
Wait until after your birthday....if she's coming to your party and she has a great time, maybe she will think differently of you.
EDIT: Take advantage of that "lil" bus ride.
oakraiderz2
Master Don Juan
idiot_boyfriend
Senior Don Juan
Asking her out is not saying you like her. It implies that you have interest and wish to become better friends with her.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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I think i know the answer but want to be sure.
idiot_boyfriend
Senior Don Juan
If she's not willing right now, forget her. You're a busy man; you don't have time for some broad to decide whether or not SHE'LL go out with you. Open your eyes, man: the ball is in her court.
Since this game isn't going anywhere, just play with her words.
"Don't worry, I'm not ready for a relationship either. Shall we just pretend that we never met?"
Make her seem like she's losing an arm by not going out with you.
"Well, we would have had a great time, but....."
Start a new thread.
idiot_boyfriend
Senior Don Juan
If she wasn't laughing histerically, it's over. She's not very interested so nothing will happen anyway.
She still want's to talk to you, and have you sit next to her? She want's you as a friend....
....you can still be her friend, but I'm not sure if this is leading to anything bigger.