Dhoulmagus
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Has it?
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Has going ghost/nc ever worked for you?
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
dustmuffin
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Yes....it has kept me sane after a breakup. I didn't do it to get her back. I did it for me to keep my sanity.
CuddleJunkie
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Yes, made the difference between getting my mental healh and independence back again, and keep on being a little needy ****.
I have never understood the advice "No Contact." If she tells you to go to hell, why would you even think of calling her back? If she sleeps with another guy, why would you even think of calling her back? Isn't it common sense?
When we have to act in a certain way because of a girl/to win a girl/to win a girl back/to impress a girl, we have already LOST the game.
No contact isn't a form of passive aggressiveness to get a girl to rethink things by punishing her with a lack of your presence.
Its you pulling the draw strings saying:
You know what, I'm putting in more than I'm getting. I'm worth more and I'm going to forget this person and spend the time I was allocating to them on somebody/something more worthy.
Its you pulling the draw strings saying:
You know what, I'm putting in more than I'm getting. I'm worth more and I'm going to forget this person and spend the time I was allocating to them on somebody/something more worthy.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
CuddleJunkie
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preferably on yourself. There's a saying in Spain "una mancha con otra se quita", it means something like "a stain gets out with another stain", and that's not a saying I want to live by. Stains are stains, you look better without them.
Maximus Rex
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Yes.
Dhoulmagus
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Well the girl didn't commit either of those things, so I don't have any motive to cease all contact. I pulled a mongol approach, by giving her a little more attention than usual yesterday, and I will ghost her from here on out. If I don't hear from her then oh well lol because I'm talking to another girl now lol.
EyeBRollin
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It always "works" because it is about you, not her.
If someone slams the door in your face, you walk in the other direction. You don't keep trying. No contact is obvious.
If someone slams the door in your face, you walk in the other direction. You don't keep trying. No contact is obvious.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Dust 2 Dust
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I went no contact on my ex-girlfriend after she moved out of my house. She began calling me non-stop a few days later and begged me to take her back. I think she was shocked by my nonchalant attitude towards the whole thing and the fact that I didn't chase her after the breakup. No Contact isn't meant to win someone over. It's meant to help you cut ties with someone in which you have an unhealthy attachment to.
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The purpose of NC is not to get back with the person, but to allow yourself to get over that person. NC is not some sort of technique to play mind-games with the girl. It's for you to move on to better things in life.
Not necessarily. I do it to maintain balance and emotional independence. It breaks any mental patterns & conceptions & expectations she may try to hold against you later.
Blatant disrespect is one thing. Losing frame is another--that's on me and I'll take whatever time I need to fulfill myself before reentering that interaction from a better place.
But to answer the OP, yes. I have a 100% success rate on girls I've ghosted for 2 or more months. It's an effective reset and those girls are among the most compliant and respectful and least demanding I have on deck (regardless of the flavor of the initial interaction)--they know I can walk away and only come back because I want to.
I spent a bit too much time shacked up with nursie before she buggered off to China. 2 weeks NC so far. I'll leave the ball in her court. In the meantime I have an Aussie girl lined up tonight oh well some days you have to eat hamburger. And a Vietnamese girl lined up for next week. I really like Nursie but SS has taught me nothing good comes of sacrificing frame.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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Girl I dated a couple of months back randomly texted me out of the blue yesterday telling me she's sorry and wants to see me again after ignoring my advances back then.
Didn't chase her once. Just went about my life.
Maybe No Contact screams out loud to them. Who knows. Who cares. I might set up a meet with her again, I may not. It's a nice attitude to have.
Didn't chase her once. Just went about my life.
Maybe No Contact screams out loud to them. Who knows. Who cares. I might set up a meet with her again, I may not. It's a nice attitude to have.
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This is the best answer
RangerMIke
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No contact is cinching up the trash bag and tossing it in the dump. It's not a technique it's what you do when you are finished with a woman.
Do some women come back after I've moved on? Sure, but it's not that many. Most women that reach back out to me I ignore
Do some women come back after I've moved on? Sure, but it's not that many. Most women that reach back out to me I ignore
Uncharted
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Yes worked great for me. About 6 months ago I deleted her number and all social media. Havent heard from the girl since and could not care less. She was a cancer that was wrecking my life.
wifehunter
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.