i know when attracting a girl, youre not supposed to always give her what she wants, tease her, dont be a wuss, etc. one of my buddies is going after this girl and all he does is kiss her ass, does everything she says, responds to her texts within 30 seconds, you get what im sayin. i just found out recently that the girl is thinking about giving him a chance. this goes completely against everything thats said in these forums. whats going on here?
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
guy kisses her a$$ and she gives him a chance?
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Julius_Seizeher
Master Don Juan
Rollo would say "You cannot negotiate desire." That's what they're doing.
And the story ends in more confusion and despair for your AFC buddy.
Each man in his own good time.
And the story ends in more confusion and despair for your AFC buddy.
Each man in his own good time.
sodbuster
Master Don Juan
ONCE she's sucked him dry of all the compliments and built her ego up to new heights,she'll drop him because she can do better
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
There are exc eptions to everything. 95% of human beings land a girl being AFC. It works. Its just that our way will yield better results. This guy will get walked all over, assuming the ass kissing isnt strategically part of his game. It can totally work if done correctly, and not a genuine supplication. Or maybe the girl is temporarily in the mood for that kind of dude. Doesnt matter.
There are no hard and fast rules to the game. The game is there to stop YOU from selling yourself out for a woman. Will AFC get girls? Yes. Would you want to be that guy? Probably not...you'll probably fill like you are betraying yourself. Earl Nightingale said success is the progressive realization of a worthy ideal. It doesn't matter how the next man gets his success...its how you get yours that matters. If you don't consider that route successful, then don't go that route. Define your own success and do the work to get to it.
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
DUKE, your brief assessment here is not nearly enough to go on. I know fat girls who would wait in line for a guy to dote on them like this - doesn't mean you'd want to ƒuck them. You also mention that "she's thinking about giving him a chance", this implies she has frame control from the beginning. She has yet to grace his supplications with the precious, priceless gift of her intimacy. Women love worshipers, they just hate sleeping with them.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
zekko
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Of course she's giving him a chance. Wouldn't you like some chick to kiss your ass all the time (if she was hot)? As long as the guy has some decent value/status, she's going to get a huge ego boost out of it. But the thing is, she most likely will not respect him, and you get the feeling this could end badly.
But like horaholic says, 95% of guys probably land girls by being AFCs. And don't forget, women usually end up marrying a nice guy. So this shouldn't be a surprise at all. Part of the emphasis on being the "bad boy" is because women respond well in the short term (sexually) to that type of man. And pickup is mostly about one night stands, so that's one reason they tell you to be the bad boy.