ElCubanito13
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ok so i got a HB phone number...so im asking how many days do i wait b4 i call her
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
got number...how many days to wait????
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
BongDuy
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call her whenever YOU feel like it.
ElCubanito13
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umm....too true man and i see u r in south florida...me 2
War Against Betaism
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I don't get this with people. Who the hell thought of this stupid 3 day rule after you get a chicks number in the first place? You don't wait too long to call her but then again you don't want to call her immediately after you get it either.
eaglez1177
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Just wait a day, not three lol....and you dont have to CALL her ya know, you can TEXT her too. If you get a num, and call a girl the next day, that will come off as being more needy than texting her instead. Texting a girl is more informal and casual.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
ElCubanito13
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yea i see u guys' point
I agree that you shouldn't call the next day, 2-3 days is fine. I think the difference between texting and a phone call has a lot to with how well you two know each other. If you go to the same school or something and she already has the impression that you're not a pvssy, then you can text. But, if it was a random cold approach, I really don't understand how texting is acceptable.eaglez1177 said:
Am I wrong?
Hell, I made a thread about this a few hours ago lol.
ElCubanito13
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well we go to the same school n i haven't been a pvssy with her
eaglez1177
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Well I personally would much rather text simply because you dont run the risk of having an awkward phone conversation. Im sure some of you have had that before, and it really sucks.
Tyson420
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One day.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
ElCubanito13
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yeah it doeseaglez1177 said:
sageproduct
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Haha yeah, i had a couple REALLY bad ones last year when I was all caught up in the "texting means you're a ***** so you should call" stuff. Also, I think phone calls have to be pretty short because otherwise you turn into her girlfriend since they have hour long conversations with each other all the time.eaglez1177 said:
jeffthechef
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Master the art of conversationsageproduct said:
sageproduct
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Haha yeah, that'll make me hate phone calls less.jeffthechef said:Master the art of conversation
phatboi408
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2 days. day 1 youre too interested.. day 3 she lost interest in you....
and there is texting game which is anytime. but dont over use it, because youll just end up being her texting buddy and wont ever hang out..
and there is texting game which is anytime. but dont over use it, because youll just end up being her texting buddy and wont ever hang out..
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.