Good conversational skills & flirting on video ?

[Cheeky_James]

I’ve just been perusing a bunch of YouTube infield videos , searching for examples of guys that can just hold a solid conversation with a woman and exude some kind of charisma/ charm /suaveness, and compell a woman to flirt /iOI back them.

And cannot find any.

Looking at PlayingWithFire, evolutiondaily, Alex leon, Austin Summer and another few random coaches tonight,
A lot of these guys just seem to operate off the same rudimentary script,

-Open with a generic compliment of her looks
-make a very short and lame attempt at flirting
-go straight into interview mode and ask heaps of basic boring questions
-propose date and try get contact details

worst cases - follow chicks up the street, doing all of the above , like p00sy beggars.

Is this really where guys are at?

one dude I’ve seen a few months back . that opens girls with “Hey, I like you!” Then quickly interview mode , and then ends with “would you like to come eat some squid with me sometime?” And asks for her email address for the contact details.

wtf is going on nowadays.

there must be something better than this, aurely.

 

[nicksaiz65]

There are some nice infields on this channel.

 

[BPH]

there must be something better than this, aurely.

Unfortunately, not really.

Having spent close to a year in this space with other "coaches" a lot of guys aren't using their real names, or are using paid models to act these out as skits. And it's because there's too much public risk attached to doing stuff like this, genuinely.

I'd almost gotten into a fight because some girls in the background of one of my approaches didn't like being recorded and had their boyfriends come threaten us. I'd had girls decide they no longer wanted to see me after finding my socials - sometimes the night before a date, other times after they'd already slept with me. And even if what you preach works, there are 10x more white knights, simps, and Karens who will comment that you're wrong...that you're sick... that what you do is manipulative...because nobody wants to raise their hand and say that they're struggling with women in a way that can be traced back to them - but PLENTY will openly blast you in the "defense" of women.

That's why you're left with guys who pull the sh** you mentioned, like asking for an email, because they think they've done something.

 

[Sega Genesis]

There are some nice infields on this channel.

I like his "free flowing" style of conversation and allowing your communication and energies to naturally and organically bounce back and forth between you versus canned lines and contrived strategies.

I would love to see the video he referenced of the actual date wherein SHE took the lead and suggested they have sex.

I think that happened to @BPH once wherein he met a girl on an app and two minutes after meeting in person SHE suggested they skip dinner and head up to his hotel room.

Am I remembering that correctly BPH?