MatureDJ
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Going on a cruise with my ex
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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
MatureDJ
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Who says he has to babysit?
MatureDJ
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I disagree. These plans have already been made, and they are non-refundable. Yes, making *future* plans would make him look like the Father of All Betas.
mrgoodstuff
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Billtx corrected me. It looks like she's paying her own way. He just has to show up.
Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
andreihaha
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A lot of opinions here, mine is pretty simple:
Have fun with it! It's already paid and I also wouldn't waste my hard earned money.
No expectactions should be the theme. You go there to relax on the cruise, drink, have fun, meet people.
If stars allign, you're gonna have sex (with her or other women). If not, you can still have fun.
Not everything in this life is about sex! Get tan, swim, relax and enjoy the beauty of the whole cruise.
But I can't stress this enough: the less expectations you'll have, the better you'll feel and the more enjoyment you'll get out of the whole deal. Have fun, my friend!
Have fun with it! It's already paid and I also wouldn't waste my hard earned money.
No expectactions should be the theme. You go there to relax on the cruise, drink, have fun, meet people.
If stars allign, you're gonna have sex (with her or other women). If not, you can still have fun.
Not everything in this life is about sex! Get tan, swim, relax and enjoy the beauty of the whole cruise.
But I can't stress this enough: the less expectations you'll have, the better you'll feel and the more enjoyment you'll get out of the whole deal. Have fun, my friend!
Update:
Figured I’d fill in with the latest news about this deal.I get a random text from her MOM today. Anyways, I got the feeling her mom was fishing about what the status of her daughter and me were because apparently this is being sold as a “temporary break” and not a breakup. I made it very clear that this was a breakup and that I was 50/50 about even going on this thing. If I could get my money back I would but since I can’t at this point, I’m trying to decide if I should go or not. Of course her mom wants me to go because she wants me to work things out with her daughter. She actually said to me “it hasn’t clicked with her about you yet, oneday she’s going to realize what she had, give her time. Maybe the time together on the cruise will be just what she needs to realize you’re right for her”. Oh. Fvcking. Hell. **** just got weird and now this cruise is starting to make sense about what to expect. I feel like her mom wants us to be together but we don’t want to be together, at least I don’t, I don’t know how she feels but I doubt she feels any different.
The hell do I say or do now? Still haven’t talked to my ex since she reached out about getting everything in order when I started this thread.
Figured I’d fill in with the latest news about this deal.I get a random text from her MOM today. Anyways, I got the feeling her mom was fishing about what the status of her daughter and me were because apparently this is being sold as a “temporary break” and not a breakup. I made it very clear that this was a breakup and that I was 50/50 about even going on this thing. If I could get my money back I would but since I can’t at this point, I’m trying to decide if I should go or not. Of course her mom wants me to go because she wants me to work things out with her daughter. She actually said to me “it hasn’t clicked with her about you yet, oneday she’s going to realize what she had, give her time. Maybe the time together on the cruise will be just what she needs to realize you’re right for her”. Oh. Fvcking. Hell. **** just got weird and now this cruise is starting to make sense about what to expect. I feel like her mom wants us to be together but we don’t want to be together, at least I don’t, I don’t know how she feels but I doubt she feels any different.
The hell do I say or do now? Still haven’t talked to my ex since she reached out about getting everything in order when I started this thread.
Atom Smasher
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Be your own man. Why are you answering to this woman?
Time for you to take back your balls and make a decision.
Time for you to take back your balls and make a decision.
Atom Smasher
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In a few years you will look back on this in utter disbelief that you got yourself into this situation and had so much trouble getting out of it. Don’t make it a regret. Handle your business.
ImTheDoubleGreatest!
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Bro come the **** on, you’re a grown ass man and she’s a grown ass woman. If she doesn’t like you by now, she’s not gonna like you ever. The fact that her freakin mom has to come talk to you about this whole thing speaks volumes about her maturity level. She likely got into a fight with her mom about you too, with her mom being in favor of you and the girl not, hence why her mom talked to you.
It’s pretty obvious at this point that you aren’t getting any, at least not from her. You better just call it quits.
It’s pretty obvious at this point that you aren’t getting any, at least not from her. You better just call it quits.
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.
ImTheDoubleGreatest!
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He’s been here since 2008. I don’t mean to be rude to the guy, but I don’t think he should be having problems getting friendzoned by single moms after knowing the game for 12 years.
No you’re right I shouldn’t be but hell even the most experienced guys get friend zoned. I walked away as soon as she suggested it after we broke up. You can’t stop any girl from seeing you as a friend if that’s what box they want to put you in. You do have the option to let them keep you there or not though.
It wasn’t a long convo between her mom and I she just asked something about the cruise. I don’t know what happened between those two, I didn’t ask, what she said was just random and I knew better. I’m not waiting around on anyone to know my worth, but damn I want to go on this cruise. I just wish it was with myself or another girl.lol
I’ve learned my lesson about making any future plans with any girl from now on. Even if I have a wife I’m not planning a thing a month or more in advance. I’ll get married in Vegas by Elvis before I’ll plan a wedding months in advance.
What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
I don’t think I can now. It will definitely be too weird, especially after what happened yesterday.
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Can I have your ticket?
I like cruises.I’m looking into it now whether I can legally transfer my ticket or not. I mean they’ll be sleeping in the same room as my ex so I dunno if they would do it or not.Can I have your ticket?
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You dated her for a year. She fully understands who you are and doesnt want to be in a relationship with you.
Stop being dramatic about this because at this point none of us give a fvck if you go on this cruise with her or not. 7 pages of you not making a decision? Come on bro.
Just tell her you are not feeling it and you arent going. You dont have to give her any further information. She said she wanted to take a break and dumped you. Stop being a beta cuck and end this already.
As soon as you get back from this cruise with her, she will dump you again. The only way that you will gain any self esteem and value is if you just tell her that you're not feeling it and back out and then delete her number and go find someone worth your time.
This is like 7th grade drama.
Fine I’ll drop it. Jesus ****ing Christ.