jacketrunner
Senior Don Juan
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How? Easier said than done.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Girlfriend takes forever to respond or ignores.
- Thread starter Jay25
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
jacketrunner
Senior Don Juan
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This, I believe is the correct advice. As painful as it is, you should not call her out or seek closure until her IL rises from distance.
If you try to call her out or talk to her when you are the needy one, it will go poorly. You should strike while the iron is hot.
I'm saying this in theory, as someone who has not succeeded at all in his own relationship.
btownbuck2012
Master Don Juan
So what? Her behavior now is proof that that was a complete lie. I’ve been through this a few times. You’re dealing with a creature that has no regards for her word or integrity or other people. What she wants she tries to get, period. When she sees something else she wants, she will rationalize away any type of guilt in dropping you like a bag of dirt for her own survival. This is what women are. Our environment has created the psyche of the modern female to be absolutely ruthless and completely selfish in this regard.
btownbuck2012
Master Don Juan
OP if you really want to gain the upper hand you will send her a text saying “let’s see other people. Sorry” and then never talk to her again.
I realize you won’t do this and neither would a lot of guys, including my very recent self, and tbh that wish on my part is basically a form of nostalgia on my part wishing I could have a do over in how I handled women who have seriously hurt me in the past.
But oh how sweet it would be. She would lose her sh*t.
I realize you won’t do this and neither would a lot of guys, including my very recent self, and tbh that wish on my part is basically a form of nostalgia on my part wishing I could have a do over in how I handled women who have seriously hurt me in the past.
But oh how sweet it would be. She would lose her sh*t.
kronreiff
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You over texted her and now you're in the boring zone to her. She seems to have moved on. The only way to check what her games are is to go no contact and let her get a hold of your FIRST. Her actions will tell you what she's all about at this point.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
I think I'll make a thread on it one day, because there's too much to say for me to answer this, I would have to really think it out and write it lol
Why's that hard? There're two ways, one is a positive approach and then there's the negative approach if things are too far gone and you're just looking to clarify/end things.
"I'd appreciate it if you responded to my texts within 2hrs. Let me know if you can do that?"
"I don't appreciate it when you take 4+hrs to respond to my texts. If that's an indication of something that we need to talk about let me know."
State what you want or don't want, then be prepared to take action.
Ok things have been better as of late after I ignored her for awhile and met up with her and ****ed her and watched a movie.
One thing she did that pissed me off is before the movie she told me to hurry up in a loud tone, I told her she better watch it and she said I was being sassy, and I said you better behave before I spank you, she kind of back down and tried to kiss me, should I take this as disrespect, did I do the right thing, I didn’t really check her other than jokingly.
Idk if I’m over analyzing or if it’s disrespect, she has been pursuing me.
One thing she did that pissed me off is before the movie she told me to hurry up in a loud tone, I told her she better watch it and she said I was being sassy, and I said you better behave before I spank you, she kind of back down and tried to kiss me, should I take this as disrespect, did I do the right thing, I didn’t really check her other than jokingly.
Idk if I’m over analyzing or if it’s disrespect, she has been pursuing me.
Nah, I can get way deeper then that
Idk what to trust because I seem to overalyze everything
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Don’t think it. Feel it. It feels right with her or it doesn’t …
I feel like i over analyze ****, it didn’t feel right when she said it though it felt rude, so I called her on it, I don’t feel she’s cheating
Should I call her in a more stern matter or just see if it happens again then just leave if it does
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Someone can be "cheating" you just by cheating you out of time, putting you last... So it's not always getting outside sex.
not much change to this situation, we had a good couple days and then she started being less affectionate again, the problem is when she comes back I never stick to my guns and play it cool, I am now, yesterday she jerked me around by calling me and barely even talking to me so I just ended the call, whats the point, she has been texting me a lot today but I’ve ignored it.
R
Ranger
Guest
Monkey branching. It’s over. Get he jump and end it or she will never respect you.
It’s over.
It’s over.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.