Mike32ct
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Chicks generally don’t lie when they give you the LJBF speech. That’s one area that you can take at face value.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
What if she said I'm probably not what you looking for, and left?Chicks generally don’t lie when they give you the LJBF speech. That’s one area that you can take at face value.
Just reminiscing.Chicks generally don’t lie when they give you the LJBF speech. That’s one area that you can take at face value.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Friends?20YO girl. Holding hands, a lot of touching, pulled her close to me, a lot of laughs, I teased her, etc. When I went for the kiss she backed off, I did'nt care, I continued talking and showed her a couple of places. After 2 hours she said she had to go.
When we texted. she says, I'm very nice but she just wants to be friends and it's not going to work between us.
What happened? Should I be her friend or should I try another tactic?
+1Forget about her and move on.
This is completely unwinnable for you.
If she won't even let you get to first base, she's definitely NOT interested!
You're in the creeper zone if that tells you anything.
She is TELLING you she's not sexually attracted to you but sees you as a platonic friend. Don't over think or over analyze it. Is she the last girl on planet Earth? Be high value, not an AFC, and move on. 99.99% chance you'll never turn her around. This is basic DJ 101 stuff.Girls say one thing and means another thing. So I would not trust what she says.
That’s a different scenario.What if she said I'm probably not what you looking for, and left?
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
whats wrong with 2-3 h date if it's going well.Two to three hours is a long time for a date, especially if you haven't at least kissed her previously.
Take her at her word, if you respond at all say "I was thinking the same thing." Then take out and be seen with other girls - not as a lure but to have fun. MAYBE she comes back around but who cares...so many fish in the sea my friend.
Sometimes girls text back after a few months and thats how i bang them.Learn how to ghost women. It’s the best trick you can use, I love doing it. I don’t like to have long drawn out chats trying to convince them why they should see me more than as a friend. Waste of time. Just ghost them out of nowhere. Doesn’t matter how long you’ve known them or anything, you don’t owe them ****.
TWENTY YEAR OLD GIRL doesn’t let you put your tongue down her throat, and you don’t care?20YO girl. Holding hands, a lot of touching, pulled her close to me, a lot of laughs, I teased her, etc. When I went for the kiss she backed off, I did'nt care,
What places did you show her?I continued talking and showed her a couple of places. After 2 hours she said she had to go.
How can we know that? She didn’t let you kiss her so she obviously wasn’t feeling you the way you were feeling her.When we texted. she says, I'm very nice but she just wants to be friends and it's not going to work between us.
What happened?
Sure, you can be her friend.Should I be her friend or should I try another tactic?
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
“Let’s just be friends” or ANY variation of that gets you blocked with me. One chance, per lifetime, no exceptions. That should be your motto with women.Sometimes girls text back after a few months and thats how i bang them.
Had a new date with another girl today. Just wanna quickly write it down before I forget.
I did what most guys were saying here. Don't invest too much, don't try too hard and don't be needy.
On the date, a lot of touching, didn't try to go for the kiss even though i was feeling it, i didn't not try to pull her close to me, built tension (Did not talk most time and let her start the convo). After 1.5 hours. She says she felt cold and wanted to go home. I also told her we should watch a movie together sometime, She said OK (But you never know, girls say something and mean another thing), I asked her two times to verify she wanted to really watch a movie. I think the frame is set up better this time. I did not do much qualification though, i hope it doesn't come back to bite me in the butt.
This year has been a dried year for me. I need to fclose asap.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.