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She's been 6 months clean. Should I stay clear?
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Girl says she used to be addicted to heroine
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
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Can you say AIDS?tryst type said:
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expos said:
Wow very true! And according to her she only ever used clean needles/never hated and has been tested since.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
backbreaker
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i clean addict if they are working a program is one of the best dates you will ever find. women in NA generally have their **** in order moreso than avg women if they are doing what they are supposed to do.
but 6 months isn't long enough. i wouldn't date a chick that doesn't have a year clean .
but 6 months isn't long enough. i wouldn't date a chick that doesn't have a year clean .
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I just wonder how easy it is for a recovering heroine addict to relapse if they ever do.
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backbreaker said:
Could you explain why?
speed dawg
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This is fvcking retarded.backbreaker said:
On another note, does your past drug addiction explain your lack of proper punctuation, backbreaker? Maybe your brain shrank?
OP.....steer clear. Let another ex-drug addict share sex fluids with this broad.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I know a girl like that, incredibly beautiful and a complete psycho. I know her history, but they still line up.....
She stabbed one of her boyfriend's ex's just recently. complete train wreck. she might be clean but they never change. The madness is there just under the surface bubbling away ready for the next eruption.
She stabbed one of her boyfriend's ex's just recently. complete train wreck. she might be clean but they never change. The madness is there just under the surface bubbling away ready for the next eruption.
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She seemed cool and we were hitting it off pretty well, which is why she felt she should be honest about her past.Slickster said:
She says it was after a breakup and it was because she was young and depressed.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
backbreaker
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tryst type said:
part of NA is to help get off drugs, but the main jist of NA is to show you how to live like a well adjusted member of society. most of the time the **** you talk about in NA has nothing whatsoever to do with drugs.
today's topic for instance was gratitude. being grateful. how many times do you come here on this forum and talk about ungrateful *****es lol? *****es that ain't grateful for ****.
a woman who is seriously working a program is going to understand things like tolerance, acceptance, patience, empathy, how to deal with haters, how to deal with success, how to deal with failure, w hat is and what is not a normal sex life, self reliance, gratitude, that a lot of skanks you deal with aren't going to have, or better stated, don't have a program where you go and work on these things everyday or most days.
I'll say this, I've been in NA/AA for 8 years. there are plenty of people who I know who hooked up and got married in NA/AA and i don't know one that's divorced. okay i take that back one lol. one dude but seriously dude has issues i don't blame the chick.
if something were to happen to my wife i would have no qualms in the least bit in dating or even marrying if the right one came along a recovering drug addict under the assumption hat they are seriously working their program.
but that's not something you can tell in 6 months.
the only thing is trying to find one without bagage like kids or ****. that's pretty hard lol. but i'd have no problem at all dating a recovering addict if they were doing what they were supposed to do.
siht, I'm a recovering addict and all things considered, i'm a tad arrogant at times, i can ramble but for the most part there is nothing about my life today that would make you assume i used to do hard drugs.
Now with all that said, i will tell you like I tell my male sponsees. she's probably going to relapse. that's just pure statistics. But generally if a person can make it a year without doing drugs and you can honestly see the change in your life they have a pretty good chance to stay clean.
If you really like her keep her around but don't' commit to anything until you see what's seriously up. some addicts like to replace sex with drugs / relationships with drugs and if that's what she is trying to do you haven't seen the depths of hellt hat this girl can take you to lol. but if she is really clean and is trying to change she could be catch.
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Tryst, dont.
Addicts can be great people once clean, but I'm telling you, opiate addictions have an extremely high relapse rate. She may never relapse, but she just as likely may.
Also a good point was made about the underlying psychological pathology in many addicts. I'm sure BB will flame me for this but in my personal experience with addicts/alcoholics, there are some underlying personality dysfunctions there that dont ever truly go away. Of course, many get clean and live prosperous, productive lives and help a lot of individuals. So I am generalizing. I just think when you are this early in the dating stage with a RECENT opiate addict, why risk it? Do you want her to bring your life down with her if she slips?
Addicts can be great people once clean, but I'm telling you, opiate addictions have an extremely high relapse rate. She may never relapse, but she just as likely may.
Also a good point was made about the underlying psychological pathology in many addicts. I'm sure BB will flame me for this but in my personal experience with addicts/alcoholics, there are some underlying personality dysfunctions there that dont ever truly go away. Of course, many get clean and live prosperous, productive lives and help a lot of individuals. So I am generalizing. I just think when you are this early in the dating stage with a RECENT opiate addict, why risk it? Do you want her to bring your life down with her if she slips?
I'd go with absolutely not. I stopped a heroin user and she gave me her i.d. She was absolutely beautiful in the picture but looked like a zombie in person. She also prostituted herself so she could retain such a habit.
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Well yeah, but how is anyone going to pull this off?visions said:
"Hey, I like you, but could you take a drug test before we have sex?"
Sure.
The fact is that you contract a virus through blood to blood contact; the people with the most blood to blood contact are intravenous drug users and people that have unprotected anal sex. Sure, she'll say she's never shared a needle, but I have a lifetime of experiences where people have lied to me for no reason, other than that it benefited them in some way.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.