SheepDogOne
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My frame so far: Overconfident jerk, teasing etc. So looking for a good response to her message that doesn't appear to keen. Or is this a beta trap? Help.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Girl I've been chasing turns tables and asks me out - don't want loose frame
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Who Dares Win
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Provide more info pls, like age and time you know each other, where and how.
SheepDogOne
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I'm 44, she's early 30's (HB7). Met 3x times socially with friends over past two weeks. Last time we met up one of her friends was playing very heavy ****blocker.. But when I can get her away from her friends everything going well at building attraction, she gives very strong IOI's... 4 days after that she sends message on FB saying "Hey come next wed to forro at ipanema" (brazilian dance night at local club)...Who Dares Win said:
Gro0ver
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How about just saying "sure, see you there".
You don't need to do the whole ****y/funny thing all the time, it's good to show a genuine side as well. Sometimes sosuave/PUA crap can get in your head and make you think you need to be an actor all the time to keep women interested. You've already showed her that you're strong and valuable and her IL is obviously high, no need to overdo it, she's not gonna do a 180 if she figures out you've got a nice side to you as well.
Your next concern is charming her friends and getting them onside. This might require a slightly different approach.
You don't need to do the whole ****y/funny thing all the time, it's good to show a genuine side as well. Sometimes sosuave/PUA crap can get in your head and make you think you need to be an actor all the time to keep women interested. You've already showed her that you're strong and valuable and her IL is obviously high, no need to overdo it, she's not gonna do a 180 if she figures out you've got a nice side to you as well.
Your next concern is charming her friends and getting them onside. This might require a slightly different approach.
SheepDogOne
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Good advice, thanks. Will give it a shot.Gro0ver said:
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.