"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Girl is "dating"
- Thread starter verysuave
- Start date
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I.A.F.Y.B.
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
TheBucketOfTruth
Master Don Juan
Try for solid commitments when you ask a girl out. Don't settle for "I'll let you know" or "I'll call you that day." In this case it may be harder since she might have work, but when does she find out what times she works for the week? If she doesn't know until say Sunday, you can still just be like "okay, well I can't guarantee I won't have made other plans by then" in a half-joking way.verysuave said:
it was tuesday 2 days ago but i haven't called nor texted her since last wednesday to confirm the date since some crap came up and i didnt have time myself...
yesterday i get a text from her saying "hey,sorry about tuesday, i was super busy and had school, maybe some other time"
how should i respond (I haven't responded yet) or not respond at all?
if i do respond should i say:
#1 "that's okay, it doesn't matter to me"
#2 "yeah and maybe i might give you a 2nd chance =)
#3 "i only ask once
help, tnx
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
last night chick texts me about 12 hours ago, and didnt receive her mssge till this morning
in the text it says:
"hi verysuave, what days do you have off this week?"
LOL...
okay, okay, im gona leave it to the experts here as to how i should respond.
And this week, i do have friday and saturday off.
No, seriously,should I just say "yeah got saturday off" ? or just make up a lie and say, i'll be away for the weekend, however we can hang out next week?
tnx
drtk said:I think that something along the lines of "It's ok, but you're gonna have to make it up to me somehow" is enough in your situation.
coolf1r3
Don Juan
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
okay this is how it went downcoolf1r3 said:
there was a 30 minute gap in between texts with me
hb: "hi verysuave, what days do you have off this week?"
me: "so, whatcha doing this weekend?" (i decided not to tell her what im doing...but instead I turned it around, cuz its MY turn to test her to see h
hb: "im working this weekedn =("
me: "hey, im working this weekend too! but elsewhere =)" (i've decided that, im not gona ask her out anymore since i already did that once. and already showed my interest)
I KNEW for a fact that that was a shiet test when she asked me "hi verysuave, got any days off this week?" IM STARTING TO NOTICE that when women asks you questions like that, it doesn't mean THEY ARE ASKING YOU TO HANG OUT WITH THEM YET or a sign for you to ASK THEM OUT, they are simply asking if you have a "DAY OFF" and nothing else.. it's like some kinda trick question these women try to pull. so she responds with
hb: "yeah, let me know what your days off u have next week and i'll make plans"
CHA CHING!
Igetit!
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tsmith2334
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Most likely, that's correct.I.A.F.Y.B. said: