Never had it happen before but my gf's daughter walked in on us doing the dirty dirty. I'm pretty sure the kid is scarred for life now. Damn lock didn't lock properly. I guess it's a little fortunate that her kid has seen stuff like that in movies and probably heard things about it from her friends but it was still awkward.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
GF's Kid Walked in On Us
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
MillionBillionaire
Master Don Juan
well at least she will have an interesting story to tell when she gets older.
backseatjuan
Banned
I walked in on my mom. It screws you up good. It’s none of your fault.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
backseatjuan
Banned
It’s 100% her fault. In your future encounters with her pay more attention to kid. Take them to a park, no sex.
Never said I was.
I know but I’m just saying don’t feel bad about it.
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Another reason to avoid single moms
AttackFormation
Master Don Juan
Funny and sad dude... funny and sad...
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Bro i wont even think about stepping foot in a chicks place if her kids are there. Thats just wierd bro. Baby daddy finds out he will murder you potentially. Not only that but i cant let loose sexually with a woman if I know kids are nearby its a very sickening thought to me.
wifehunter
Master Don Juan
I was just going to say that!
Serenity
Moderator
I have done this, my father fvcking my step mother. I heard sounds through the wall, went to check as I was worried, they said everything was ok and I went back to bed. I didn't even understand what they actually did, the memory resurfaced years later and I understood what happened. I'm not damaged by it, of course they fvck, what sort of broken relationship would it be if they didn't enjoy that?
The result? @MillionBillionaire said it best:
Sex isn't something to be ashamed of, it's a perfectly human thing to do.
AttackFormation
Master Don Juan
Agreed, if I had children I would raise them "sex positively". However as was brought up in another example, I doubt a little girl seeing and hearing her single mother bring home different guys to fvck her all the time is a risk free experience for the kid formatively speaking...
Serenity
Moderator
Well, that's something else, especially if it happens several times. I agree with that.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.