Getting T levels tested next week

[BackInTheGame78]

The study cited in the article has more holes than Swiss cheese. Promoting a cholesterol-denying chiropractor as a nutrition expert is bad advice for the men out there.

I have no opinion on the guy doing videos, but our understanding of cholesterol is not correct in many cases and it's changing as they understand more.

 

[corsica]

Dr. Berg is not a doctor. He's a chiropractor.

He has a good appearance for his age. Better to be slim than fat but he talks too effeminate.

 

[2rings]

Dr. Berg is not a doctor. He's a chiropractor.

He has a good appearance for his age. Better to be slim than fat but he talks too effeminate.

Haha
The point I was trying to drive home was there must be natural ways to improve testosterone or other hormones related to male sexuality markers.
Injecting pharmaceutical testosterone drugs is probably a last resort in my book, though I heard some guys say the drugs were a life changer they wish they tried sooner.
I am just skeptical because there seems to be a miracle industry for every ailment nowadays.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I have no opinion on the guy doing videos, but our understanding of cholesterol is not correct in many cases and it's changing as they understand more.

The understanding hasn’t changed. If you have high cholesterol for decades it is likely you will develop CVD. There’s no real controversy about this in cardiology. Being a contrarian however is great for making money on the internet.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

The understanding hasn’t changed. If you have high cholesterol for decades it is likely you will develop CVD. There’s no real controversy about this in cardiology. Being a contrarian however is great for making money on the internet.

The #1 risk factor by a wide margin for CVD is not having proper Vitamin K2 levels. Very few people actually know or care about this tho, but are super concerned about minor factors like cholesterol.

 

[EyeBRollin]

The #1 risk factor by a wide margin for CVD is not having proper Vitamin K2 levels. Very few people actually know or care about this tho, but are super concerned about minor factors like cholesterol.

No, the #1 risk factor is your serum Apo-B levels over time (of which LDL cholesterol is a surrogate marker). This has been established as causal in CVD.

Let’s leave it to the cardiologists and dieticians. Most will advise against eating a diet of steak and eggs. How we got on this topic is YouTube chiropractor Dr. Berg’s less than credible dietary advise, which has fvcked up his own wife’s lipid panel.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

No, the #1 risk factor is your serum Apo-B levels over time (of which LDL cholesterol is a surrogate marker). This has been established as causal in CVD.

Let’s leave it to the cardiologists and dieticians. Most will advise against eating a diet of steak and eggs. How we got on this topic is YouTube chiropractor Dr. Berg’s less than credible dietary advise, which has fvcked up his own wife’s lipid panel.

Sorry but no.

The number one cause of death is heart attacks.

The number one cause of heart attacks is calcium build up in the arteries(atherosclerosis).

The only way to prevent and reverse this is via K2 which activates calcium binding proteins in the body and is virtually extinct from the Western diet due to animals not eating proper diets and not being out in the sunlight and very few properly fermented foods being eaten.

No other factor is going to lower your risk by more than 57%. Won't even be close.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Sorry but no.

The number one cause of death is heart attacks.

The number one cause of heart attacks is calcium build up in the arteries(atherosclerosis).

The only way to prevent and reverse this is via K2 which activates calcium binding proteins in the body and is virtually extinct from the Western diet due to animals not eating proper diets and not being out in the sunlight and very few properly fermented foods being eaten.

No other factor is going to lower your risk by more than 57%. Won't even be close.

You’re wrong on this. Apo-B is causal in CVD. Cholesterol skepticism is great for YouTube algorithms, bad for men’s health. If you want to tell your cardiologist that your cholesterol profile doesn’t matter, they’ll smile and probably call you all kinds of stupid after you leave their office. But do you.

 

[2rings]

I heard that the problem is not really cholesterol, it is inflammation.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I heard that the problem is not really cholesterol, it is inflammation.

They are not mutually exclusive. Healthful dietary pattern and statin medication that lowers cholesterol also lowers inflammation.

There probably is an inverse correlation between inflammation and testosterone level as well.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

You’re wrong on this. Apo-B is causal in CVD. Cholesterol skepticism is great for YouTube algorithms, bad for men’s health. If you want to tell your cardiologist that your cholesterol profile doesn’t matter, they’ll smile and probably call you all kinds of stupid after you leave their office. But do you.

Again. Calcium buildup in arteries causes more deaths than anything else. This is not really debatable. If you want to go on your cholesterol side kick then you do you.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Again. Calcium buildup in arteries causes more deaths than anything else.

Nope, even that part is not correct. Calcium in arteries indicates established, already existing CVD. Calcified plaques are more stable than non-calcified plaques (non calcified plaques cause STEMIs and strokes). At best, the calcium in arteries is a correlation of underlying established disease. It is not causal.

I've read that cholesterol itself its not measure of how bad you're arteries are, but the build up that you mention here.

The cholesterol contained in your lipid panel shows the concentration of lipids in the blood. It doesn’t say anything about the current state of your arteries. The non HDL-c (LDL-c + triglycerides/5) is a surrogate marker for apoliprotein-B, a protein present on all artery clogging particles in the blood. It’s like how your a1-c test is a bio marker for overall blood sugar levels. CVD takes decades of elevated Apo-B to manifest, which is why short term studies and anecdotal CAC scores are useless.

 

[Giovanni SouthSide]

Clocked in at 595 total T.
the doc at the men’s clinic said he wouldn’t treat me since Im early 30s and my number is in normal range of the scale. I agreed to some extent.
I didn’t win the testosterone lottery. 800-1000 is where I want to be at tho.

I will get tested again next week just to get a baseline.
I haven’t worked out in 3 months. (Some lack of motivation)
Diet is homemade. I’m doing good on that.
drink only water and alot.
Sleep can be way better.
no real stressors in my life.
women are very rare in the moment and social life is ostracized and not where it once was.
I’m kind of rusting out touching grass reason I went to go get checked.

Any knowers of this know if I can bring that 595 up naturally?
some solid guidance would be appreciated take your shots

 

[Hamurabimbi]

just got tested 2 weeks ago. 670. Not terrible for a middle aged guy.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Clocked in at 595 total T.
the doc at the men’s clinic said he wouldn’t treat me since Im early 30s and my number is in normal range of the scale. I agreed to some extent.

Listen to the doc and don’t worry about this.

 

[Giovanni SouthSide]

Im going to nut up start hitting the weights again and sleep earlier around 10pm.
Sometimes the depressive rut crawls up the skin and you just gotta shake it off, pick up your bundle and move the fvck on.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Oddly my estrogen was 40.3 a touch high. Doc is going to put me on a med to lower it.

 

[Giovanni SouthSide]

Bruh you can get all kindz of $hitz in Mexico. Imagine being in the 1,500 levels you Godly you feel

Im in TJ. Access to all sorts of men pharma and other illegal vices that the good ol’ u.s.a can’t stamp their tax on

1500? is that even possible for a natural ?
money ain’t a factor dawg
I just want a boost in well being to get me out in the wild with the blade ultra sharpened

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

Oddly my estrogen was 40.3 a touch high. Doc is going to put me on a med to lower it.

Same here, had my bloodwork done and while prolactine is on the lower side thankfully I have estrogens at 40 like you do which is within range but I believe given my far from optimal T levels (560) may be a problem...also shbg are on the higher range.

My biggest issue was vitamin D that was below the healthy range.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Same here, had my bloodwork done and while prolactine is on the lower side thankfully I have estrogens at 40 like you do which is within range but I believe given my far from optimal T levels (560) may be a problem...also shbg are on the higher range.

My biggest issue was vitamin D that was below the healthy range.

E is 23 now.