"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Getting jacked/ripped would eliminate 85% of the problems on this forum..

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Your reply to cola:



That was a complaint.
We both know what my comment was. The point of contention is how was it a complaint?

You've repeatedly stated my comment was a complaint, yet you're unable to expand or supply any explanation as to how it was a complaint. If this is the highest level of sophistication you're capable of, I suppose we can just move on...
 
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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We both know what my comment was. The point of contention is how was it a complaint?

You've repeatedly stated my comment was a complaint, yet you're unable to expand or supply any explanation as to how it was a complaint. If this is the highest level of sophistication you're capable of, I suppose we can just move on...
Stop acting like you suddenly lack comprehension of simple concepts. Your entire post is you complaining about the PED taking athletes. "They're not a real fitness body." Again, you're sounding like women who complain about other women. Which is the basic point of you guys who are in this thread arguing against fitness. You come from a place of insecurity which is female energy.
 

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Stop acting like you suddenly lack comprehension of simple concepts. Your entire post is you complaining about the PED taking athletes. "They're not a real fitness body." Again, you're sounding like women who complain about other women. Which is the basic point of you guys who are in this thread arguing against fitness. You come from a place of insecurity which is female energy.
Haha, I'm anti fitness? I'll compare physiques anytime buddy

Why are you putting into quotation marks a statement I never made? Sure, they're real. Enhanced by roids, but still real. I have no issues with NFL players using roids.
 

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Your insecurity is showing.
Ah, way to move the goalposts.

So, I'll take your unwillingness or inability to address how my original comment was a complaint as a rather evasive concession.

Guess we'll do this dance again. How is my insecurity showing?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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If it’s so easy then every guy will be walking around with a six pack lmao. You are right it’s pretty damn simple, but not everyone has the discipline and lifestyle to support it
Really dude I am quite worried about your mindset.. You seem to struggle with grasping simple concepts.

How many percentage of men can achieve 6 pack abs huh? Not many!

Most men especially over a particular age, 30 years & onwards are perfectly happy with a good muscular frame.. Muscular chest, arms & good legs, without the need to count & watch every calorie in order to achieve 6 pack abs.

What planet are you on? Oh Yeh the one where they have every excuse under the sun to avoid physical improvements lol
 

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All the weak skinny/fat dudes are super triggerd & insecure as Fuk in this thread lol

Don't worry boys, clearly you won't be able to physically protect your woman if that type of situation came around.. Us bigger guys might help you out.. Problem is her vigina might dry up for you, knowing how fragile you are
 

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All the weak skinny/fat dudes are super triggerd & insecure as Fuk in this thread lol

Don't worry boys, clearly you won't be able to physically protect your woman if that type of situation came around.. Us bigger guys might help you out.. Problem is her vigina might dry up for you, knowing how fragile you are
I would guess that you've never been in a fight due to how much you love talking.

And you're obviously the insecure one here trying to talk down to everyone.
 

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I would guess that you've never been in a fight due to how much you love talking.

And you're obviously the insecure one here trying to talk down to everyone.
No dude this thread was created to encourage / motivate dudes to physically improve.. The only person who is trying to TALK DOWN to anyone who is trying to physically improve is.. Wait.. Wait.. YOU!!

With your 10000x reasons why working out is pointless
 

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Between the choice of looking like a wimpy out of shape guy and a muscular fit guy, the choice is obvious. You'll feel better if you are the latter as opposed to the former too.

It makes things easier yes and there will be times when you'll get laid just based off presence/good looks, but you want all the different facets of your life to be balanced. Male attraction is a package deal - have a good job/ambition/work towards a career goal, dress well, be charming, be good with people etc. Women, especially the one's that know they are in demand (the types I assume most people on here want to get) look for all that ****.

It's pretty straightforward - if the majority of guys are the same/act the same then that tells you should aim a little higher in order to pull a higher quality woman.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Really dude I am quite worried about your mindset.. You seem to struggle with grasping simple concepts.

How many percentage of men can achieve 6 pack abs huh? Not many!

Most men especially over a particular age, 30 years & onwards are perfectly happy with a good muscular frame.. Muscular chest, arms & good legs, without the need to count & watch every calorie in order to achieve 6 pack abs.

What planet are you on? Oh Yeh the one where they have every excuse under the sun to avoid physical improvements lol
I disagree; most men can achieve 6 pack abs if they're truly dedicated. The issue is mass. The majority of guys with 6 pack abs are lean and muscular.
 

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I disagree; most men can achieve 6 pack abs if they're truly dedicated. The issue is mass. The majority of guys with 6 pack abs are lean and muscular.
I dare you to call Glenn Thomas lean.

 

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I dare you to call Glenn Thomas lean.

I wouldn't be scared of that guy.

And if he laid a finger on me, he would GO TO JAIL.

The people on this forum are obviously lacking in real life experience and that's why they continue this "tough guy" delusion because they've never seen anything bigger.

The vast majority of people on this forum are clueless.
 

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I did the gym thing last year, got into pretty good shape but it had zero effect on my bodycount
which remains zero for over two years now. I do a physical job, typically walking about 9 miles a
day and stacking crates of heavy vegetables onto dollies. Pretty low body fat, no gut, leanly built
with no wobbly bits. 6ft tall. I have a footballer/swimmers build, shoulder length hair, symmetrical
face, a growing tattoo collection already in double figures, dress well, own multiple properties, play
musical instruments, ride a lairy motorcycle, have green eyes (one of the rarer eye colours) I'm tanned,
can sing really well, great sense of humour although it's pretty dark. I spend any nights off in my friends
c0cktail bar where I have oodles of social proof and can go behind the bar anytime I want and everybody
that works there treats me like a celebrity because I'm buddies with their boss. My issue is I absolutely
will NOT approach women, under any circumstances because ultimately I don't see sex as any kind of prize
It's all a complete waste of time. These women want Bradchad Thunderc0ck 8pack billionaire
Superman Grey, even if they are massive fat heffers with absolutely sod all to offer themselves.
I'm so disillusioned with it all that I have completely given up trying to be what they want.
It's like trying to ice skate up a hill.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I did the gym thing last year, got into pretty good shape but it had zero effect on my bodycount
which remains zero for over two years now. I do a physical job, typically walking about 9 miles a
day and stacking crates of heavy vegetables onto dollies. Pretty low body fat, no gut, leanly built
with no wobbly bits. 6ft tall. I have a footballer/swimmers build, shoulder length hair, symmetrical
face, a growing tattoo collection already in double figures, dress well, own multiple properties, play
musical instruments, ride a lairy motorcycle, have green eyes (one of the rarer eye colours) I'm tanned,
can sing really well, great sense of humour although it's pretty dark. I spend any nights off in my friends
c0cktail bar where I have oodles of social proof and can go behind the bar anytime I want and everybody
that works there treats me like a celebrity because I'm buddies with their boss. My issue is I absolutely
will NOT approach women, under any circumstances because ultimately I don't see sex as any kind of prize
It's all a complete waste of time. These women want Bradchad Thunderc0ck 8pack billionaire
Superman Grey, even if they are massive fat heffers with absolutely sod all to offer themselves.
I'm so disillusioned with it all that I have completely given up trying to be what they want.
It's like trying to ice skate up a hill.
Do you live in the USA?
 

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No sir, the UK. The bulk of our women are fvcking awful.
 
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No sir, the UK. The bulk of our women are fvcking awful.
Go on a sex vacation.

I suggest the red-light district in Antwerp.

50eur for some super hot Romanian and Bulgarian girls. All behind windows so you can shop before you buy.
 

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No sir, the UK. The bulk of our women are fvcking awful.
Never been but I've heard the horror stories. It's awful in the U.S. as well. Every 270 pound slob thinks they're entitled to a top SMV man.
 

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Here's where I was at 47 years old before they closed the uk gyms last year.
My hair's quite a lot longer now.
 

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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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