"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Full AIM convo (inside), Seem to failed! DJs check this out, please!
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
1. what you said was scary
2. you just met her, you arent to be c+f right off the bat, not until she needs to be neutralized
3. conversation subject is too sensitive and serious especially for talking online
4. you just met her
5. you got owned, she instantly labled her self out of your league, she hangs out with jocks etc....
6. you were judging her
7. although what you said MIGHT HAVE been ****y it WAS NOT funny at all.
8. you WERE judging her.
9. "Sweet talking" is not a DJ TOOL! WHERE DID YOU READ ABOUT SWEET TALKING? WHAT KIND OF ***** ARE YOU? TO SWEET TALK A GIRL RIGHT AWAY. NOT ONLY IS THAT CREEPY BUT THE BlTCH HAS TO EARN IT! SHE DID NOT EARN IT? YOU ARE BETTER THAN THAT, YOU ARE 10x BETTER THAN THAT STUPID BlTCH. DONT GIVE UP STUFF FREELY LIKE THAT. HANG ON TO THAT **** AS MUCH AS A GIRL'S HANG ON TO THIER VIRGINITY.
heres are some examples of c+f from aim convos that i have right now.
me: did you listen to that song (trying to connect interest)
her: no i didnt bother myself to listen to it (she thinks shes on a pedastool)
me: good, its not not gothic, i dont think youd like it (BAM! KNOCKED OFF HER PEDASTOOL by means of teasing
her: -.-
her: meanie
her: stereotypical meanie
(because i tease her about being gothic)
stupidbltch: do you think im good looking?
me: youre ugly as hell (she was fishing for a complement i couldnt give her one)
me: j/k
(this would be mean if i werent kidding)stupidbltch: thats what i thought
me: no you're pretty hot actually (yeah heres your complement)
me: for a sophomore (hahaha you thought i was serious. youre still a stupid sophomore)
I DO NOT SUGGEST talking online in the first place, its just a bad addiction of mine. also a big no-no is meeting someone online, do you realize how much of a puss that makes you look like? to have to hide behing a computer screen when you meet someone.
you have a long path ahead of you, dont get discouraged, keep applying, apply in person is 1000x more effective.
AND no, i dont not always chat with girls on AIM. I been thinkin the whole last night, and this morning. I came to my senses what I did what stupid and quite boring. Thats why I came to ask you guys, for advice on what should I work on. Thats all I'm asking for, guys.. I hope you understand where I'm comin from.
LikRetsam, what are some "not chump" opener do you recommend then?
“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
Anything that doesn't have to do with what you used. I used to use such lines back in the 4th grade. You do not steer the convo in such freaky ways at the begining. If things lead up to how everyone is a sheep but she stands out, then fine. But not out of the blue. Conversation: Topic to topic with a logical link between them.
California Love
Master Don Juan
Hmmm alright, I'm might got an idea. But I dont want to risk, starting another conversation, with her, that might make me regret it again. So, do you have any good examples up your sleeve? That would greatly helpful. AND thanks xomel for your examples. You really made me, got somewhat of an idea.
InsidiousNstinct
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Aznxboi I believe you got that idea of yours from David DeAngelo?
You had the right intentions but it didn't come out the right way. I think that whole idea is wrong. Women get really pissed when you try to manipulate them or tell them you have them figured out.
Don't tell em' you know anything. Just SHOW them. Trust me, they'll know when you've figured them out. You'll know too because they'll be spending hours upon hours talking on the phone with their other girlfriends about how great you are. And how you always know how to say the right things, exc.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Try a different approach. Maybe something upbeat and actually interesting. If you talk to your boys like that, you'd probably be the one they never call when they are heading to the park to play ball, even when they need a 6th.
You know why you can't get through to her?
It's BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T LIKE YOU.
If she was interested in you, she'd make it easy to get through to her. She'd practically throw herself at you given you made the right moves.
But you haven't.
And this creepy wannabe emotional connection isn't helping much either. Woman friends talk. Men go out and do stuff. YOU... well, I don't know what you're doing, but it seems like you're trying to end the woman circle of chitter chatter. Drop it. Not only that, you are focusing WAY too much on a girl who isn't interested. You love her style? That's why you're after her?
BULLSHIT.
You think she's hot, you think she's cute, you think she's ultra fine, whatever. The type you want? The type that doesn't want you? Give it a break.
What you want to do is find out if a woman is as interested in you as you are in her as soon as possible and before making all these emotional attachments. You obsess and put way too much time in someone who probably isn't going to go on a date with you anyways.
Want some advice? Quit being a pansy.
This is what you do. You get up, drop the computer talk, don't think that you can replace computer talk with phone talk either, it doesn't work, go to school, learn, meet a cute girl, GET THE NUMBER, call her up, invite her to do something OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL, basically anything where she has the choice to go out with your or not. She goes, cool, she doesn't go, move on, and don't come here looking for ways to get her to go with you. You go on a date, you live your life, you succeed. What's this time wasting gibberish.
undesputable
Master Don Juan
thats not that bad of a thing to say if youre under the right circumstances.... for example if she was older or something....thats not something that you would say to a girl 21 years old and down.....also there was no reason for you to say something like that bc is not like if she was in any pedestal or anything.... and DONT say something like that online.....
you would usually say something like that when shes acting bratty and is thinks shes better than everyone and all that stupid **** hor girls do....oh and yea another thing is that the girl needs to be way above average hot....
I think you need a lot of experience with woman and be under the right circumstances to pull that off and for her to response positivly...
Evil-Rom
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It means sh1t although can be good for your confidence
keep playing bro
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Patrick124
Master Don Juan
and sometimes you hit on the back? thats wrong?lol.
I sue AIM to talk to guys 95% of the time. the other 5% is spent talking to girls, trying to finalize plans.
don't use AIM often. I sue it too much eve so...but i always put up an away message.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.