I'm reviving this old thread because this is the first time I've seen it since I last posted.
This is so backwards. So you're not friends with any women you sleep with? Do you hate them or objectify them? Why the hell do you sleep with them then? You think people that have been married 30 years aren't best friends AND banging each other's brains out?
Do you know what a friend is? A friend is someone with whom you have a platonic relationship.
There are plenty of people I don't hate or objectify that aren't my friends. Why make the assumption these things are binary?
Just because you go out with a woman and know her personally, that doesn't make you her friend...you're more or less acquaintances at that point.
Again, this might be where the confusion is. People you see casually aren't your friends, especially when you've met them recently.
Friends are people you've known for a while and people you see regularly. I want to note this distinction because once a woman has formed an impression of you, it's almost impossible the change it.
Couples who have been married for 30 years aren't "banging each other's brains out" I can assure you, they've moved past that stage. Besides, marriage or even a long-term relationship is a different ball game. Most guys in the friendzone are most certainly not in a long-term relationship with the woman or married to them.
Typically, this forum is about meeting women, going on dates and flirting etc...tell me how being a friend with a woman has worked out for you in the past?
When a woman likes you as a friend she'll tell you anything. If you're not some sensitive insecure jacka$s then you'll assert your boundaries in a charming, effortless way so that these interactions are always enjoyable for you.
Exactly, she'll tell you things like; how the man she's going out with won't return her calls, and she'll expect you to give her an answer.
Listen, I don't know how many women you've been with or if you're just posing, but think about it for a moment. If a woman feels it's okay to tell you anything, it means either she doesn't care what you think, or she knows you'll always accept her regardless; that's not how attraction works.
Also, if she will tell you anything about herself, she'll expect you to do the same (or most likely, you've already told her a lot about yourself); this completely kills the mystery that generates a huge chunk of the attraction to you in the first place.
Society has standards. If you're in a class at school, you'll expect the teacher to teach and the students to listen. If you're in an interview, you'll expect the interviewer to ask questions and the interviewee to answer them.
If you have a friendship with a woman, she expects you not to be sexual towards her; if you do, it'll make her uncomfortable.
People like to know what's going on, and if you've set a standard, anything but that standard will weird people out.
Female friends invite you places with other women, hook you up with friends, disarm other women, put in good words for you, play excellent wing women, the list goes on.
Yeah, did you even read my initial post?
I agree that you don't have to bang every woman you interact with, and you can be friends. It even gives you access to more women (her friends).