sandman6991
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Why don't you just let the girls come to you and your friends at lunch?
You say they're interested...
You say they're interested...
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Actually, the girls from the 3rd approach did initiate convo with me at the football game on Saturday and the two girls from that set actually introduced me to one of their friends.sandman6991 said:Why don't you just let the girls come to you and your friends at lunch?
You say they're interested...
Hooray you're a pimp.ElStud said:Actually, the girls from the 3rd approach did initiate convo with me at the football game on Saturday and the two girls from that set actually introduced me to one of their friends.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
That's what I hate about the advice you guys give though. It's WORDS, WORDS, and more WORDS. You guys think if you're not using the right WORDS, it's a bad approach, this is clearly not truth. It does not matter what story you're using, it doesn't matter what the f*ck you say to the girl, if you're not conveying the right things, she's not going to be interested in you anyways. Get a total newbie to the game to go up to a girl with the best story ever, she probably won't be interested cause she can sense his agenda and that he's not displaying his true personality.TheVirtualMind said:Try using different stories...
Dude, don't worry about my friends, I have SEVERAL friends but ofcourse these aren't guys I'd actually game with. I just don't like the idea of fvcking game girls with your friends, since they probably don't understand PU. If anything I would bring my friends over and they'd make the set harder for me. Nah, PUing with friends aint something I do. Plus, I don't even talk to my friends at lunch, I just use lunch time to approach girls.How about you make some friends first that you can hangout with at lunch so you don't look like a lonely creep, and also company for your weekends since I've read in another thread you don't have much going on.
Get more socially acceptable first, then focus on girls. By the sound of it it seems like you're always by yourself on lunch breaks and simply approach any chick that's in front of you and negging them.
EVEN if you succeed with a girl eventually - it will be a pretty boring relationship because you apparently haven't got much going on for you.
Of course I'm only judging from your posts. But I haven't once seen you mention a friend.
No no no... I didn't say use your friends as wingmen.. I said use your friends as social proof. Social proof is very important when it comes to attracting and getting interest from women and ESPECIALLY in high school. No girl is going to date someone who doesn't have any social proof and most of the times he's by himself. When women see you have social proof, part of the game is over.ElStud said:Dude, don't worry about my friends, I have SEVERAL friends but ofcourse these aren't guys I'd actually game with. I just don't like the idea of fvcking game girls with your friends, since they probably don't understand PU. If anything I would bring my friends over and they'd make the set harder for me. Nah, PUing with friends aint something I do. Plus, I don't even talk to my friends at lunch, I just use lunch time to approach girls.
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
Best advice you've given yet, yeah, I actually have been overgaming the girls. Negging is good when you've just met them, but eventually girls will get tired of that type of stuff. Since I already know the girls in set 3, I'm going to stop with the negging and just vibe them, kinoing whichever one I want to date.Grand Wizzard Alamar said:Ahhh too much text..
how about you just try being less full of yourself and a touch nicer to make girls more comfortable around you?
thank you for the compliment el.ElStud said:Best advice you've given yet.
to help you, we have to beat the truth into you.Real said:people, think of an awkwardly social creepy 17 year old kissless virgin who THINKS he's the shyt because his ego is huge for absolutely no reason.........kinda like that guy who hits on 20 girls at a party, gets brutally rejected by all of them, and still says "yupp im da man baby im da man!" (think of the guys at Night at the Roxbury)
Elstud thinks what he is doing is 100% right, yet he has no proof of success to back it up - he's a crazy creepy guy really
his looks are the problem, and they cause him to be so socially awkward
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
No, everything you said was on the money except the looks part. It's his ego. And his inability to take criticism without getting defensive.Real said:people, think of an awkwardly social creepy 17 year old kissless virgin who THINKS he's the shyt because his ego is huge for absolutely no reason.........kinda like that guy who hits on 20 girls at a party, gets brutally rejected by all of them, and still says "yupp im da man baby im da man!" (think of the guys at Night at the Roxbury)
Elstud thinks what he is doing is 100% right, yet he has no proof of success to back it up - he's a crazy creepy guy really
his looks are the problem, and they cause him to be so socially awkward
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.