"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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For those who said i didnt need the surgeries done

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Yep @Tictac ... I realize that there is no cure for insanity... In fact, he is just doing this to make himself feel better. What little shreds of self-esteem he actually has. All our telling him he looks good is not going to help him. All the surgeries in the world would not help him. Even if he looked like Brad Pitt he would not realize the truth.
In fact, like many who are ill like this I doubt he will ever actually see the truth and see past the delusion. Rarely are these people ever able to break free of it as the delusion is their reality. I understand this... I really do...

Truth is @Clueless2k16 we cannot help you here, no psychologist will be able to help you either... The only thing that will help you is yourself if you can someday hopefully see past the delusions your mind has conjured up. You are here to try to shed the pain of what you feel, to try to scrape at any semblance of hope... But you will not find it. I rarely understand people, mostly I fake it because I do not... But you I understand... Hang in there.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Yep @Tictac ... I realize that there is no cure for insanity... In fact, he is just doing this to make himself feel better. What little shreds of self-esteem he actually has. All our telling him he looks good is not going to help him. All the surgeries in the world would not help him. Even if he looked like Brad Pitt he would not realize the truth.
In fact, like many who are ill like this I doubt he will ever actually see the truth and see past the delusion. Rarely are these people ever able to break free of it as the delusion is their reality. I understand this... I really do...

Truth is @Clueless2k16 we cannot help you here, no psychologist will be able to help you either... The only thing that will help you is yourself if you can someday hopefully see past the delusions your mind has conjured up. You are here to try to shed the pain of what you feel, to try to scrape at any semblance of hope... But you will not find it. I rarely understand people, mostly I fake it because I do not... But you I understand... Hang in there.
Good thing he can deprive others of needed health care through the NHS so he can tend to his narcissism. Completely selfish assh*le.
 

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Good thing he can deprive others of needed health care through the NHS so he can tend to his narcissism. Completely selfish assh*le.
the plastic surgeons wouldnt do the surgeries if they thought i wasnt a candidate.
 

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Moderators... I will never tell you how to do your job, this board is managed wonderfully. However, I ask for your attention to this case. I know @Clueless2k16 here is not being directly disruptive, nor is he actually trolling as he truly believes this madness. But I know that he will continue this on an on. Inundating the board with threads about his delusion to help hold whatever he has of his fragile self-esteem to get whatever shreds of gratification, which will never be enough to feed that bottomless hole of a self-esteem he has. We cannot help him here... In fact, the likelihood is that all of this will do more harm to him than good. I think that having him here and him being here is detrimental to both himself and this forum...

Take that into consideration... I do this because it is right.
@Espi @bradd80
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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You are a self-centered, wholly narcissistic sad sack.

Others could not get care because of you.
Jaw surgery (Maxilo Mandibular Advancement) -- was for treatment of severe sleep apnea.

Rhino/Septoplasty -- crooked nose / breathing problems

Strabismus surgery - self explaining

only the otoplasty and canthopexies for the lifting of the eyes were cosmetic
 

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Jaw surgery (Maxilo Mandibular Advancement) -- was for treatment of severe sleep apnea.

Rhino/Septoplasty -- crooked nose / breathing problems

Strabismus surgery - self explaining

only the otoplasty and canthopexies for the lifting of the eyes were cosmetic
Tap dance all you like. You are addicted to cosmetic surgery for no reason other than you hate yourself. This deprives others of necessary medical care.
 

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Jaw surgery (Maxilo Mandibular Advancement) -- was for treatment of severe sleep apnea.

Rhino/Septoplasty -- crooked nose / breathing problems

Strabismus surgery - self explaining

only the otoplasty and canthopexies for the lifting of the eyes were cosmetic
Admit it, you are addicted to the anesthesia, aren't you?
 

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I have met every kind of case... But never a real BDD case... How I would love to pick your thoughts to analyze how you think. But this is not the place for it.
 

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i'm no loony. I have a degree in Journalism and a job in IT (Networking). I dont understand the hate really
No hate...I find it pretty crazy to be honest...like sociopathic almost.

You obviously hate yourself more than all of us combined could anyway, so I'm not sure what the point of that was...
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Sure you are.

Read your own posts.
Dr. Lecter: "How did you catch me Will? How did you do it?"

Will: "You had....disadvantages"

Dr. Lecter: "Disadvantages? What disadvantages?"

Will: "You're insane."
 

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@marmel75 BDD is not associated with destructive tendencies other than self-destructive (high suicide rate and high degree of self harm not even counting the surgeries and such they do to themselves). I met so many cases in the behavioral hospital... But never one of these. It is not like it is a rare condition... But it must not be something they do not feel warrants admittance into a behavioral hospital. I am sure his time in this forum will be limited, and that he will either leave once we stop giving him scraps to feed his empty self-esteem or banned. But I will be sad to see it go... Come to PsychCentral if you want Clueless... People there would at least be better equipped to handle you. And there I will be sure to pick your thoughts more.

This is not the place for it however...
 

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@marmel75 BDD is not associated with destructive tendencies other than self-destructive (high suicide rate and high degree of self harm not even counting the surgeries and such they do to themselves). I met so many cases in the behavioral hospital... But never one of these. It is not like it is a rare condition... But it must not be something they do not feel warrants admittance into a behavioral hospital. I am sure his time in this forum will be limited, and that he will either leave once we stop giving him scraps to feed his empty self-esteem or banned. But I will be sad to see it go... Come to PsychCentral if you want Clueless... People there would at least be better equipped to handle you. And there I will be sure to pick your thoughts more.
He's been here under at least two names already and over many months.

Instantly recognizable for his hysterics and self absorbtion.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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