"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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@marmel75 BDD is not associated with destructive tendencies other than self-destructive (high suicide rate and high degree of self harm not even counting the surgeries and such they do to themselves). I met so many cases in the behavioral hospital... But never one of these. It is not like it is a rare condition... But it must not be something they do not feel warrants admittance into a behavioral hospital. I am sure his time in this forum will be limited, and that he will either leave once we stop giving him scraps to feed his empty self-esteem or banned. But I will be sad to see it go... Come to PsychCentral if you want Clueless... People there would at least be better equipped to handle you. And there I will be sure to pick your thoughts more.

This is not the place for it however...
that's fine for me i can always check the dj bible and learn from there, i was here for the sharing of experiences and of course tell my life story, but if you people dont want me here that's ok
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Clueless, first you must recognize that you are delusional. In this and other threads, you state you are a 40-year old virgin. But, if I remember correctly, a few years back, you had a gf and did not get laid for a year or so.

Do you delude yourself into believing you are now a Virgin; hence your new screennames to disassociate from your other identities.

Warning: if you insist that you are a virgin, I will dig up your old posts for your review.
 

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that's fine for me i can always check the dj bible and learn from there, i was here for the sharing of experiences and of course tell my life story, but if you people dont want me here that's ok
Stay as long as you like. Just don't ask the same questions, make the same assertions endlessly and refuse to listen to everyone that tries to talk to you.
 

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Clueless, first you must recognize that you are delusional. In this and other threads, you state you are a 40-year old virgin. But, if I remember correctly, a few years back, you had a gf and did not get laid for a year or so.

Do you delude yourself into believing you are now a Virgin; hence your new screennames to disassociate from your other identities.

Warning: if you insist that you are a virgin, I will dig up your old posts for your review.
you are wrong i had a gf but nothing happened because i couldnt get turned on. check the post

also had 2/3 dates that could involve sex and same **** happened
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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that's fine for me i can always check the dj bible and learn from there, i was here for the sharing of experiences and of course tell my life story, but if you people dont want me here that's ok
It is not that... It is simply that we are not equipped to help you with your specific case. I think that other places where there are people more well versed in psychology (far more than even I) would be more capable. I will say that I am not sure you will ever find the ideal you desire, the delusion will always be present and the gaping hole in your self-esteem will always remain.. But I believe you can live with it, maybe even succeed in other ways with it... Mental illness is difficult thing to work through, you have to fight every day against it. But perhaps you can learn to fight it... Perpahs... I have seen people who fought worse.
 

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You are wrong.

See how easy that is?

If you're going to do this, expect to be treated just as you have been.
@Tictac ... He is delusional... BDD, a very notable case of it. I would take the high road and ignore this guy. His thoughts are not based in reality. Engaging him will only create more frustration and cause him to become more negative about himself and others here.
 

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being with women and not have sex because you block everytime for me its considered nothing happening at all. ok there was kino. cuddling and oral sex.
 

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@Tictac ... He is delusional... BDD, a very notable case of it. I would take the high road and ignore this guy. His thoughts are not based in reality. Engaging him will only create more frustration and cause him to become more negative about himself and others here.
Done.

His posts ought be stickied with a warning.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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You are not listening to my points @Clueless2k16 ... Typical of people in a delusion is that they ignore it when the delusion is pointed out to them. This has nothing to do with DJ tactics, kino, sex, or women... You have already been to psychological forums, I can tell. And your subconscious and conscious are actively trying to deflect any idea of it being all in your head, it is part of the condition. We cannot help you here...
 

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http://www.sosuave.net/forum/index....ding-to-do-something-about-my-lovelife.91415/

I read a couple threads. Your being a virgin is consistent. Though, you did acknowledge you had five gfs, one with relations as long as 11 mos. Accordingly, your being a virgin with a handful of gfs was your choice, not theirs. Women don't ask for sex. Your job as a man is to push for it.

I bring this to your attention as you often parrot that your virgin status is evidence that you are unattractive. Conversely, your being a virgin with a handful of gfs evidences that you have the looks, but have no balls.

Your woman "problem" is NOT looks-derived. That's why you are delusional.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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OP, I actually wanted to ignore you from now on because, after you had sent me your pictures, I sent you a detailed direct message telling you that everything's fine and giving you advice what you can do to improve your situation but you just ignored it and kept on whining in threads. My time is precious, OP. I spent considerable time finding the right words to help you in this direct message but it turns out that I wasted my time.

You know what? We can do nothing to boost your low self esteem! You're like a guy who has been promoted twice in one year and who gets complimented on it but then just replies that he supposes his boss felt sorry for him. All these guys here on SoSuave presented well-intentioned and logical arguments but your resistance is so strong that even the best argument wouldn't change anything!

Your problem is that the belief that you're ugly is an emotionally driven belief. We can't logically argue you out of it, you hear me? Having a body image issue is all about sorrows coming from the brain. It is how your brain is directing you to focus and think. These will be my last words to you: You look way better than a guy like Jack Ma for example. Look up Jack Ma on google. He is definitely not Brad Pitt. But you know what? He is one of the most successful entrepreneurs in the world with a net worth of 23.3 Billion dollars. He doesn't give a single f*** about his appearance and enjoys his life while you're whining on a forum. You look way better than this guy but he would attract way more women than you simply because he is not wallowing in self-pity.
 

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You have serious issue OP. I used to have BDD just like you. I'd get women hitting on me all the time. I had this married masseuse trying to give me free massages in the backroom. I had another single MILF that worked under the same manager whistle at me when I walked by and tell me that I need to take her out for drinks and **** her (her words). I had another MILF tell me she was going to join my gym to see me workout... and she did (she was married). Yet somehow I'd convince myself they weren't really hitting on me.

**** like that would happen to me often and I would still call myself fat and sit at home by myself every evening fighting the urge not to eat because I though I was too fat to get a girlfriend.

It's taken years and I'm still not completely over it, but enough that it doesn't affect my life too much. I stll feel a compulsion to look like a male model, but I enjoy exercising so it works out I guess.

Point is, looks only help you if they are consistent with your behavior. You can look like a male model but if you act like a ***** you'll never get a woman to feel sexual attraction for you. A woman needs to feel your strength, masculinity, independence, and desire for success. Looks can often get you a first date to give a woman a chance to feel your strength, but if you **** it up then your looks don't mean ****.
 

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I'm not convinced that OP is serious.
A super persistant and consistent troll? Had this been some guy popping up out of nowhere I would be more inclined to agree. He's been going on and on across several forums, google the username picollo30. That's the username he used to upload the pictures, he's got forum profiles under the same username with the same story. There's also a twitter account with that username, which shows what probably is his real name.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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