Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
I know it's mutual, but I have savored drawing it out and not telling her. We have been together about 4-5 months.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
For LTR, when do you say 'I love you?'
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Vulpine
Master Don Juan
After you kiss on the altar.
"...You may kiss the bride."
*kisses*
V: *leans in to whisper in ear* "I love you."
Yeah... I had to vote "never".
"...You may kiss the bride."
*kisses*
V: *leans in to whisper in ear* "I love you."
Yeah... I had to vote "never".
speed dawg
Master Don Juan
7 months in, after she'd already said it 200 times.
Mind_Body_Soul
Senior Don Juan
It doesn't matter as long as it's AFTER she says it first. The longer you wait the better.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Vulpine
Master Don Juan
Well, since I'm never going to be standing on an altar, never.
I'm probably never getting married, and if I did, it would be in Vegas... baby. ('Cuz the chick I'd marry wouldn't settle for anything less than a Vegas wedding, of course.)
So, in a Vegas wedding, I wouldn't whisper that mush. :nono: I'd whisper something more like "let's go get lucky little darlin'" in an Elvis voice. Followed by: "can we hit the roulette table and the way up to the room?"
:rockon:
Dare to dream.
I'm probably never getting married, and if I did, it would be in Vegas... baby. ('Cuz the chick I'd marry wouldn't settle for anything less than a Vegas wedding, of course.)
So, in a Vegas wedding, I wouldn't whisper that mush. :nono: I'd whisper something more like "let's go get lucky little darlin'" in an Elvis voice. Followed by: "can we hit the roulette table and the way up to the room?"
:rockon:
Dare to dream.
Victory Unlimited
Master Don Juan
LOL!
And here I was always taught that you should always tell a woman "I love you" in a DEAD or almost FORGOTTEN language like MAYAN or ARAMAIC----you know, or ANY other language used in a movie directed by Mel Gibson...:rockon:
And here I was always taught that you should always tell a woman "I love you" in a DEAD or almost FORGOTTEN language like MAYAN or ARAMAIC----you know, or ANY other language used in a movie directed by Mel Gibson...:rockon:
I’m sure we’ve all had chicks say it to us after a week or something. I remember thinking, like WTF, “…do you realize I have not even changed my underwear the entire time I’ve known you”.
Any overused phrase essentially becomes meaningless. The only time WE should say it is only AFTER she says it and only one tenth of times she does.
Oh, yeah, for effect, never say it as an immediate response to her saying it, and, when you do say it, make it random, out of the blue, not just after you boned her.
Any overused phrase essentially becomes meaningless. The only time WE should say it is only AFTER she says it and only one tenth of times she does.
Oh, yeah, for effect, never say it as an immediate response to her saying it, and, when you do say it, make it random, out of the blue, not just after you boned her.
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
not just after you boned her.
but damnit, I've always just boned her. Maybe that's what I love about her
but damnit, I've always just boned her. Maybe that's what I love about her
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
when you feel like it
bigjohnson
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I don't let her expect it. Sometimes I'll say "Yeah, I'm a lovable sorta person", or "and who could blame you really?" in a funny way. Then once in a while I'll get all serious and say it back.
If you make it unexpected there is a higher addiction factor.
Look at the experiments with mice and the reward machine to see how it works.
If you make it unexpected there is a higher addiction factor.
Look at the experiments with mice and the reward machine to see how it works.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
STR8UP said:
Good advice. She ended up saying it first. I will remember to use it sparingly.
X-Man
Don Juan
I said it recently after a few months when I was in the ****. Got me out of it and I have hardly said it ever again even tho she does all the time, as it should be.