B0redandl0nely
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Does she really mean that or is it just an excuse to dump me?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Feels like we don't have that much in common?
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
B0redandl0nely
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I already said "hit me up if you change ur mind.' I wish I would have said what you said.
B0redandl0nely
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she also said "i felt like i do most of the conversation. i hope im not that bad to talk to." well i have aspergers syndrome so no wonder..
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The problem with that is you gave her all control of the situation.
IMO, it's best to make her think there is another factor, wondering how you are actually ok with it and it leaves her head spinning. It also keeps you in control of yourself. She can't just change her mind next week and you'll be there waiting. It sounds like you ALREADY replaced her and she didn't know it or see it coming. Women hate that......and they normally come back around.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
B0redandl0nely
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Well I guess it's too late for that. Right?
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My favorite exit line to date was a few months ago.
2 dates....pizza, beer and sex. She paid for the pizza and beer. She heard I was a "player" and sent me a really dirty text. Said she didn't know if we should go out again (She was looking for a good ego stroking)
My response:
Thank gawd you brought this up. I feel the same way. Anywho...thanks for the pizza, beer and piece of @ss. The beer was ice cold and the pizza was phenomenal. I'll definitely hit that place up on future dates. Take care hun "
Then she blew my phone up for 2 weeks, showed up at my house and I had to block her number and all social media. That response P!SSED her off. It it also took her interest to a crazy level
2 dates....pizza, beer and sex. She paid for the pizza and beer. She heard I was a "player" and sent me a really dirty text. Said she didn't know if we should go out again (She was looking for a good ego stroking)
My response:
Thank gawd you brought this up. I feel the same way. Anywho...thanks for the pizza, beer and piece of @ss. The beer was ice cold and the pizza was phenomenal. I'll definitely hit that place up on future dates. Take care hun "
Then she blew my phone up for 2 weeks, showed up at my house and I had to block her number and all social media. That response P!SSED her off. It it also took her interest to a crazy level
B0redandl0nely
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So there's nothing I can do and she deff won't hit me up right?
B0redandl0nely
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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Who knows what she will do....shes a woman lol.
I guarantee you 2 things:
1.) For some reason her interest level was dropping or she really feels like you dont have much in common (unlikely).
2.) Any chasing will just push her away quicker.
Leave it alone, and I mean DO NOT initiate contact with her for ANY reason. If she reaches out, be busy and wait several hours before you respond. Only give her VERY short answers. If she says "maybe we should talk, maybe I made a mistake, can we talk".....simply say "sure but I'm not sure when I'll get free. I'll let you know when I get free" and then wait a few days to see if she reaches back out. Make her do work.
I wouldn't advise answering any of her phone calls right now. It's too easy to let her put you on the spot and doesn't give you any time to give her thought out, short responses. Plus you're supposed to be busy going a different direction. Remember?
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Irrelevant. Its one of about 5 or 6 excuse du jour's women give when they lose interest in a guy.
My favorite thing to say to this in reply "Thats a good thing. Ive always believed when two people agree on everything one of them is not needed"
And then ler her respond if ahe chooses to and go from there...and if nothing from her end then go NC and delete her number.
99% of the time this is a "some guy has surfaced that I'm more interested in" line
B0redandl0nely
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How the **** do you know there's another guy?
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Because when its not you there is ALWAYS another guy.
Bible_Belt
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That's not bad at all. The problem is that you attach too much significance to being liked by this girl. You care too much. I get the impression that you are not that happy being single, which will always put a lot of pressure on your relationships.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
B0redandl0nely
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I'm gonna ask her
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You don't take good advise very well.
Ask her and it will start a fight and she will never admit it anyways.
Do not contact her.
B0redandl0nely
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what does it matter if I can't get her back?
marmel75
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Seriously? You want to make yourself look that lame? She isnt going to give you a straight answer anyway.
But if you want to give her and her friends great laughing material when they get together then go for it...
B0redandl0nely
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you'e
an *******
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.