B0redandl0nely
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Does she really mean that or is it just an excuse to dump me?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Feels like we don't have that much in common?
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
B0redandl0nely
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I already said "hit me up if you change ur mind.' I wish I would have said what you said.
B0redandl0nely
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she also said "i felt like i do most of the conversation. i hope im not that bad to talk to." well i have aspergers syndrome so no wonder..
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The problem with that is you gave her all control of the situation.
IMO, it's best to make her think there is another factor, wondering how you are actually ok with it and it leaves her head spinning. It also keeps you in control of yourself. She can't just change her mind next week and you'll be there waiting. It sounds like you ALREADY replaced her and she didn't know it or see it coming. Women hate that......and they normally come back around.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
B0redandl0nely
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Well I guess it's too late for that. Right?
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My favorite exit line to date was a few months ago.
2 dates....pizza, beer and sex. She paid for the pizza and beer. She heard I was a "player" and sent me a really dirty text. Said she didn't know if we should go out again (She was looking for a good ego stroking)
My response:
Thank gawd you brought this up. I feel the same way. Anywho...thanks for the pizza, beer and piece of @ss. The beer was ice cold and the pizza was phenomenal. I'll definitely hit that place up on future dates. Take care hun "
Then she blew my phone up for 2 weeks, showed up at my house and I had to block her number and all social media. That response P!SSED her off. It it also took her interest to a crazy level
2 dates....pizza, beer and sex. She paid for the pizza and beer. She heard I was a "player" and sent me a really dirty text. Said she didn't know if we should go out again (She was looking for a good ego stroking)
My response:
Thank gawd you brought this up. I feel the same way. Anywho...thanks for the pizza, beer and piece of @ss. The beer was ice cold and the pizza was phenomenal. I'll definitely hit that place up on future dates. Take care hun "
Then she blew my phone up for 2 weeks, showed up at my house and I had to block her number and all social media. That response P!SSED her off. It it also took her interest to a crazy level
B0redandl0nely
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So there's nothing I can do and she deff won't hit me up right?
B0redandl0nely
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??
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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Who knows what she will do....shes a woman lol.
I guarantee you 2 things:
1.) For some reason her interest level was dropping or she really feels like you dont have much in common (unlikely).
2.) Any chasing will just push her away quicker.
Leave it alone, and I mean DO NOT initiate contact with her for ANY reason. If she reaches out, be busy and wait several hours before you respond. Only give her VERY short answers. If she says "maybe we should talk, maybe I made a mistake, can we talk".....simply say "sure but I'm not sure when I'll get free. I'll let you know when I get free" and then wait a few days to see if she reaches back out. Make her do work.
I wouldn't advise answering any of her phone calls right now. It's too easy to let her put you on the spot and doesn't give you any time to give her thought out, short responses. Plus you're supposed to be busy going a different direction. Remember?
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Irrelevant. Its one of about 5 or 6 excuse du jour's women give when they lose interest in a guy.
My favorite thing to say to this in reply "Thats a good thing. Ive always believed when two people agree on everything one of them is not needed"
And then ler her respond if ahe chooses to and go from there...and if nothing from her end then go NC and delete her number.
99% of the time this is a "some guy has surfaced that I'm more interested in" line
B0redandl0nely
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How the **** do you know there's another guy?
marmel75
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Because when its not you there is ALWAYS another guy.
Bible_Belt
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That's not bad at all. The problem is that you attach too much significance to being liked by this girl. You care too much. I get the impression that you are not that happy being single, which will always put a lot of pressure on your relationships.
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
B0redandl0nely
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I'm gonna ask her
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You don't take good advise very well.
Ask her and it will start a fight and she will never admit it anyways.
Do not contact her.
B0redandl0nely
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what does it matter if I can't get her back?
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Seriously? You want to make yourself look that lame? She isnt going to give you a straight answer anyway.
But if you want to give her and her friends great laughing material when they get together then go for it...
B0redandl0nely
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you'e
an *******
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.