Emotional eating weight gain

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I fell off the wagon and ate a whole freaking pizza last night at 10PM. Felt like complete crap all day. Back on the wagon again.
You need to cheat or else you will just fall off the wagon and not get back on, it's just rewiring yourself through discipline to have a cheat that's desirable but still somewhat healthy, I mean pizza is fat and carbs so it's especially bad unless it's fueling a big work out, but you also need about 1/4 of your body weight a day in fat to aid in test production which could be made to be about a pizza, then it's just the carbs and the work out.

Its just the type of fat you want that can make the pizza undesirable, so you gotta vet the ingredients of each place to find what's ideal for your diet
 

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You need to cheat or else you will just fall off the wagon and not get back on, it's just rewiring yourself through discipline to have a cheat that's desirable but still somewhat healthy, I mean pizza is fat and carbs so it's especially bad unless it's fueling a big work out, but you also need about 1/4 of your body weight a day in fat to aid in test production which could be made to be about a pizza, then it's just the carbs and the work out.

Its just the type of fat you want that can make the pizza undesirable, so you gotta vet the ingredients of each place to find what's ideal for your diet
The key if you are going to cheat is to make it all in a single day. If you are on point the rest of the week leading up to it your body will have down regulated it's ability to store fat efficiently and it will be of minimal harm. Also it is wise to put your heaviest lifting day on it as well, which should be legs.

To put it in perspective, I used to have cheat days once a week where I'd probably eat 7000-10000 calories. I'm talking everything. Ice cream fo breakfast, huge taco bell order at lunch, pizza etc...no limits.

Then I'd follow it with a fast day. Net effect over those two days would be zero in terms of weight(+3 lbs after cheat day, -3 lbs after fasting day) but it would then fuel weight loss the rest of the week since leptin would be reset and thryoid would be revved.

End result, lost 25-30 lbs in 6 weeks, with most coming within the first 4. I did this multiple times over the years.

If your diet is on point normally cheat day will have virtually no effect as long as it's one day.
 

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End result, lost 25-30 lbs in 6 weeks, with most coming within the first 4. I did this multiple times over the years.
Thats impressive as f* - at what age?

If your diet is on point normally cheat day will have virtually no effect as long as it's one day.
I've found this to be true as long as you are, as said above ON POINT, the rest of the week.
 

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Thats impressive as f* - at what age?

I've found this to be true as long as you are, as said above ON POINT, the rest of the week.
That was from late 30s to early 40s. Did the same thing every winter starting in early February.

Yes...there are some people I read on here who claim their diet is "on point" but it is really a lot closer to 60% on point than 100% on point with some of the food choices I SMH at.
 

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I'm trying to curb my emotional eating but it's really difficult.

I thought there supposed to be food shortgages coming in the new year, so I bought a bunch of crackers and what not. Nothing happened yet, and some events at home precipated me to start eating this food and now I'm over 40% bf. Healthy chips, crackers (whole wheat) and arrowroot buiscuits.

Planning to see a doctor next week but don't want to disclose too much information as to the emotional triggers to eating this type of foods, etc...

Has anyone have this problem before? How did you deal with emotional eating?
Yeah, I've been and still am there, especially lately. I moved to another country two years ago, better economy, more money in my pocket, living alone and with less time to cook. The perfect environment for me to just buy junk food. I'm not sure how heavy I was when I got there, but I'm almost 140kg now. Being fat sucks, but it sucks even harder to keep on stress eating, as if your only way to deal with the stress or frustration is eating ****ty food.

Well, I recently (this week, to be more precise) started something called the "Warrior's Diet". As stupid as the name sounds, it was recommended by an well-known brazilian oldschool fitness coach, who said it helps with your metabolic syndrome (because it keeps the insuline levels low for the most part of the day, avoiding constant peaks that eventually results in insuline resistance). For me, it's not a problem to stay the whole day long fasting and only eat when I get home (by 6pm, sometimes later).

Anyways, food struggle sucks and it's real, we gotta keep careful with that. Time goes by, we barely look ourselves in the mirror, and before you notice, your belly is so big that's rolling over your c*** and giving you a hard time wiping your as* after you take a sh*t.
 

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Yeah, I've been and still am there, especially lately. I moved to another country two years ago, better economy, more money in my pocket, living alone and with less time to cook. The perfect environment for me to just buy junk food. I'm not sure how heavy I was when I got there, but I'm almost 140kg now. Being fat sucks, but it sucks even harder to keep on stress eating, as if your only way to deal with the stress or frustration is eating ****ty food.

Well, I recently (this week, to be more precise) started something called the "Warrior's Diet". As stupid as the name sounds, it was recommended by an well-known brazilian oldschool fitness coach, who said it helps with your metabolic syndrome (because it keeps the insuline levels low for the most part of the day, avoiding constant peaks that eventually results in insuline resistance). For me, it's not a problem to stay the whole day long fasting and only eat when I get home (by 6pm, sometimes later).

Anyways, food struggle sucks and it's real, we gotta keep careful with that. Time goes by, we barely look ourselves in the mirror, and before you notice, your belly is so big that's rolling over your c*** and giving you a hard time wiping your as* after you take a sh*t.
How tall are you? I'm, 5'10, about 188 kg, and as weighed today, at 39.5% body fat. I'm using the Noom diet app plus some exercise here and there. I wouldn't say my belly is that big and I'm able to buckle two notches in if I'm standing up (before I was only able to do one). There is some "right direction" improvement with me, but still a long way to go to close the gap. Noom's dieting focuses on the caloric density of foods and puts them in three categories, green (having the least caloric density and recommended), yellow (in between), and orange (having the most caloric density foods, and only "healthy" types of foods here might be recommended).

The Warrior's Diet sounds interesting, however, my bad cholesterol levels are unfortunately elevated (but still borderline territory rather than "freak-out" type of high) and I have to limit egg consumption.
 

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How tall are you? I'm, 5'10, about 188 kg, and as weighed today, at 39.5% body fat. I'm using the Noom diet app plus some exercise here and there. I wouldn't say my belly is that big and I'm able to buckle two notches in if I'm standing up (before I was only able to do one). There is some "right direction" improvement with me, but still a long way to go to close the gap. Noom's dieting focuses on the caloric density of foods and puts them in three categories, green (having the least caloric density and recommended), yellow (in between), and orange (having the most caloric density foods, and only "healthy" types of foods here might be recommended).

The Warrior's Diet sounds interesting, however, my bad cholesterol levels are unfortunately elevated (but still borderline territory rather than "freak-out" type of high) and I have to limit egg consumption.
I'm 1.92m. I'm not sure what my body fat % is, as I still have some muscle (way less that I used to have, tho) under the thick fat layer, but I believe I must be around 35-40%. Being tall and heavy like that is especially hard, because your blood pressure is higher and your knee will suffer if you try to do any high intensity cardio, so diet and working out with some light and moderate cardio are my only options. Also been struggling to be consistent at gym, despite feeling really good there.

About the diet, it's very simple. You fast the whole day long and eat at night. The coach recommends a 4 to 6 hour window for you to be eating all your calories, not needing to worry much about the quality of the foods. As long as your respecting your protein and fat intake, don't worry about the rest. For me it works out fine because when I was younger, I used to eat large meals 3 times a day, and because of that I need big meals to feel full and nice. I couldn't possibly be eating a plate of leaves and then 100g of rice with 80g of meat. It just isn't enough. I'm not so much into eating leaves, for me rice and chicken is enough, maybe that also helps. Basically, all you need to do is fast the whole day long, eat your calories at night. He also says that working out before, during or after your meal time doesn't make much of a difference, which is also a good point for me.
 

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How tall are you? I'm, 5'10, about 188 kg, and as weighed today, at 39.5% body fat. I'm using the Noom diet app plus some exercise here and there. I wouldn't say my belly is that big and I'm able to buckle two notches in if I'm standing up (before I was only able to do one). There is some "right direction" improvement with me, but still a long way to go to close the gap. Noom's dieting focuses on the caloric density of foods and puts them in three categories, green (having the least caloric density and recommended), yellow (in between), and orange (having the most caloric density foods, and only "healthy" types of foods here might be recommended).

The Warrior's Diet sounds interesting, however, my bad cholesterol levels are unfortunately elevated (but still borderline territory rather than "freak-out" type of high) and I have to limit egg consumption.
Your cholesterol numbers have NOTHING to do with egg consumption. Another nonsensical myth that's been disproven time and time again yet somehow is still quoted like a Bible by doctors and people alike.
 

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I'm 1.92m. I'm not sure what my body fat % is, as I still have some muscle (way less that I used to have, tho) under the thick fat layer, but I believe I must be around 35-40%. Being tall and heavy like that is especially hard, because your blood pressure is higher and your knee will suffer if you try to do any high intensity cardio, so diet and working out with some light and moderate cardio are my only options. Also been struggling to be consistent at gym, despite feeling really good there.

About the diet, it's very simple. You fast the whole day long and eat at night. The coach recommends a 4 to 6 hour window for you to be eating all your calories, not needing to worry much about the quality of the foods. As long as your respecting your protein and fat intake, don't worry about the rest. For me it works out fine because when I was younger, I used to eat large meals 3 times a day, and because of that I need big meals to feel full and nice. I couldn't possibly be eating a plate of leaves and then 100g of rice with 80g of meat. It just isn't enough. I'm not so much into eating leaves, for me rice and chicken is enough, maybe that also helps. Basically, all you need to do is fast the whole day long, eat your calories at night. He also says that working out before, during or after your meal time doesn't make much of a difference, which is also a good point for me.
The only cardio that's ever needed by anyone is walking and anyone who is ambulatory should be able to do that.
 

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The first thing is to identify what is causing emotional eating. And this is a bit hard, but possible.

Bupropion helped me in some way since I went no contact with my parents and started my life over, but I still had binge eating.

Ive lost 20kg so far. Had lost more but I gained 7kg since my last relationship. Working on losing it again.

When you identify the triggers, you have to work on your guilt. We use to blame ourselves and feel guilty when overeat. This is not good also. Be kind and work on a mindset of slowly improving.

Get enough sleep. This is the key to regulate your hunger and give you more energy and willpower. Without that, you can become more depressed, anxious and then... overeat.

Dont push too hard on gym or workouts at this time, since it can make you moe hunger too. Do some walkings, pushups and thats it.

There is some kind of foods that creates inflamation and make you hunger. Like refined carbs, sugar, gluten foods. Its a good thing to avoid it. But I know this is a bit difficult, so go slowly.

I would say relationships are the main cause. It can be family, friends, girls, work... thats why I told you to check on that.

And put your sleep in priority. This is making a huge difference in my life.
 

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But are crackers really shvt food? Its not great food, but I thought shvt food is more like french fries, soda pop, oreo cookies, poutine, cheesecake, as opposed to crackers and biscuits (ie especially where Arrowroot flour is low glycemic). You can also have high-quality Keto foods that have no sugar in the ingredients and promote healthy fats, but then has like 100g of fat/saturated fat if it's a dessert (ie like a Keto-cheesecake or Keto-cupcake). They are expensive too and even diebetics can eat them! But even if you are healthy morbidly obese, (ie you have fat, but no indicators of chronic disease and everything else is 100% totally healthy), you can't argue that 40% + of healthy fat is good even if there is no shvt food.
A lot of carbs in small amounts. Better to eat rice instead (still high in carbs but way less than those stuffs).

And it doesnt fill your hunger. Thats why eating natural foods like meat, vegetables, eggs is way better.
 

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Your cholesterol numbers have NOTHING to do with egg consumption. Another nonsensical myth that's been disproven time and time again yet somehow is still quoted like a Bible by doctors and people alike.
This is not accurate. Telling someone with borderline high cholesterol to disregard their egg consumption is like telling someone with emphysema to disregard cigarette use.

Eggs do affect cholesterol and should be titrated based on individual variability. As with most nutrients, it is a dose dependent S curve. Some individuals can consume 10 eggs per day and it will have no effect. Usually those are folks already consuming a high amount of animal-based foods that already have a suboptimal lipid panel. Some individuals eggs will have a drastic effect. Try running an egg study on vegans and watch what happens to their cholesterol levels.
 
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This is not accurate. Telling someone with borderline high cholesterol to disregard their egg consumption is like telling someone with emphysema to disregard cigarette use.

Eggs do affect cholesterol and should be titrated based on individual variability. As with most nutrients, it is a dose dependent S curve. Some individuals can consume 10 eggs per day and it will have no effect. Usually those are folks already consuming a high amount of animal-based foods that already have a suboptimal lipid panel. Some individuals eggs will have a drastic effect. Try running an egg study on vegans and watch what happens to their cholesterol levels.

Here is where it all falls apart for you and your cholesterol holy Grail...

That and your liver can produce 10x or more the amount of cholesterol you could ever eat in a day anytime it wants to.

"the authors concluded that there is no evidence that eggs play a role in the development of CVD."

 

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Here is where it all falls apart for you and your cholesterol holy Grail...

That and your liver can produce 10x or more the amount of cholesterol you could ever eat in a day anytime it wants to

The contribution from your liver is about

"the authors concluded that there is no evidence that eggs play a role in the development of CVD."

Eggs = heart disease is not my argument. The advisement of a person with high cholesterol to ignore egg consumption is irresponsible. Whole dietary pattern actually accounts for 20-30% of serum cholesterol, with some variability in both directions.

If you aren’t familiar with an S curve relationship, it means that there is a relationship to a certain point, then past that point there is no longer a relationship. In the context of a standard American diet already high in bad fat, bad carbs, and high meat consumption, eggs are neutral. Most people on SAD will observe either modest or no change in lipids from eggs. But as I will repeat, try going vegan for a couple months, then eat 6 eggs a day, and tell us eggs have no effect on lipids. Lol.
 

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Eggs = heart disease is not my argument. The advisement of a person with high cholesterol to ignore egg consumption is irresponsible. Whole dietary pattern actually accounts for 20-30% of serum cholesterol, with some variability in both directions.

If you aren’t familiar with an S curve relationship, it means that there is a relationship to a certain point, then past that point there is no longer a relationship. In the context of a standard American diet already high in bad fat, bad carbs, and high meat consumption, eggs are neutral. Most people on SAD will observe either modest or no change in lipids from eggs. But as I will repeat, try going vegan for a couple months, then eat 6 eggs a day, and tell us eggs have no effect on lipids. Lol.
The fact we are talking about eggs as the problem instead of the fact this man is at 38% Bodyfat and likely has been eating processed crap for 90% of his diet for years and years that has caused this issue is actually mind blowing to me.
 

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The fact we are talking about eggs as the problem instead of the fact this man is at 38% Bodyfat and likely has been eating processed crap for 90% of his diet for years and years that has caused this issue is actually mind blowing to me.
Eggs aren’t his problem; they just aren’t going to help.
 

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Eggs aren’t his problem; they just aren’t going to help.
If he is replacing processed crap with eggs I am pretty sure they would actually...

And he could always do what I do, eat 2 eggs and then just use egg whites for the rest, like I make an 8 egg omelette with a bunch of veggies in it but only 2 are whole eggs and the other 6 just the whites.
 

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Been eating like trash and drinking for 4 days. Owning it here publicly. Eating clean and lifting heavy today.

Sick of falling off the wagon.
 

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Been eating like trash and drinking for 4 days. Owning it here publicly. Eating clean and lifting heavy today.

Sick of falling off the wagon.
If you are going to fall off the wagon get it all out of your system in one day. It will help minimize the damage
 

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There was some small progress with the diet through noam. I went below 260 lbs (258 lbs) and was below 40% bf (ie 38.4% bf).

I got bored waiting for dad to pick me up from a train station, and ordered a pizza from a kiosk while waiting and ate 60% of a small Artizan pizza for $ 12. It took near a month of hard work and diet to even get to this weight and feel I just wrecked everything by a stupid decision made on an impulse because I was too impatient to wait another 1-2 min for my dad to come by.
 
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