"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Does Canada have the worst incel epidemic of all the western world? What gives?

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That has been tried, but, sadly, it has not worked.
It also HAS worked as well. I've seen it work quite often. There will be transferrences from the group your connecting with. If those friends are being your friend you will get back in the game.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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It also HAS worked as well. I've seen it work quite often. There will be transferrences from the group your connecting with. If those friends are being your friend you will get back in the game.
I’m sure it has worked. But it hasn’t worked in the case of my friends.
 

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How would one of those Canadian or San Franciscan incels currently stuck in a pessimistic self defeating thought loop break out and have relative success in that environment?
There is no magic formula. Self-improvement is the only way out and self-improvement is hard. Discovering this forum would be a good first step for those folks.
 

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Canada gave us guys like Mystery the pickup artist and it seems like in the PUA scene, Canadians (especially from Toronto) are way over-represented. In the incel community, from what I have seen, Canadians are way over-represented. I have noticed that women from Toronto are probably the most snarky, passive-aggressive, fake, narcissistic, and clout chasing out any other kind of women in the western world.

It kinda screws with my head as an American because growing up, we always thought that Canada = nice and friendly. I am wondering, is this rudeness and horrible behavior something recent in Canadians or was it there for decades and I am just noticing it now as an American because of the internet?
Canada has one of the most polite men I ever see, they act very professional and they are reliable people. On the other hand I so the worst version of women in this planet, the average urban Canadian woman over 25, is evil , deceptive , power hungry and filled with spirt of Misandry and desire to destroy men.

For sure that not apply for every man and woman , but if you live in Toronto , it is safe to assume the above until proven otherwise .
Expect (and experienced this in real life also some blogger wrote about it ) men to find every opportunity to talk to your GF or wife even in your present.
 

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Canada has one of the most polite men I ever see, they act very professional and they are reliable people. On the other hand I so the worst version of women in this planet, the average urban Canadian woman over 25, is evil , deceptive , power hungry and filled with spirt of Misandry and desire to destroy men.

For sure that not apply for every man and woman , but if you live in Toronto , it is safe to assume the above until proven otherwise .
Expect (and experienced this in real life also some blogger wrote about it ) men to find every opportunity to talk to your GF or wife even in your present.
So "kind and reliable" enables the power hungry,deceptive and evil women there. They probably want to prove to these women that they are "good men" or "trustworthy" or "reliable" and these women are setup to exploit men, so they are "convenient marks".
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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So "kind and reliable" enables the power hungry,deceptive and evil women there. They probably want to prove to these women that they are "good men" or "trustworthy" or "reliable" and these women are setup to exploit men, so they are "convenient marks".
Same with the Dutch. The guys are super cool. The women are aweful.
 

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Nah Australia is way worse by far. My ex is Australian and it was awful. The women there are infamous for being arrogant, self driven, and snarky to the point the men gave up wearing the pants lol.
You're thinking of the Scots. :p (BTW, my kilt is Maxwell.)
 

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You think that's bad you should see the Italians.
Any chick that wants more attention that she could ever want should become a bottle blonde, move to Italy, and walk around in crowded streets; her a33 will get regularly messaged.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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If you can get laid in Sydney, you can get laid anywhere. It’s well-known amongst the global daygamers who city-hop. Sydney is hardest by far.

I have no idea why. Thoughts?
It's not called Chadstralia for nothing. :rolleyes:
 

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So "kind and reliable" enables the power hungry,deceptive and evil women there. They probably want to prove to these women that they are "good men" or "trustworthy" or "reliable" and these women are setup to exploit men, so they are "convenient marks".
Exactly , the system in Canada, legal and the media is all directed to exploit the man , and the term of "devoted husband" is regularly used to refer to the husband who give-up all his needs to focus on the family , and the funny thing "devoted wife" is a term that looked down and outdated.
 

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Exactly , the system in Canada, legal and the media is all directed to exploit the man , and the term of "devoted husband" is regularly used to refer to the husband who give-up all his needs to focus on the family , and the funny thing "devoted wife" is a term that looked down and outdated.
Omg... Devoted wife is outdated? But they expect men to bear the cross like Jesus? What's working in that society? Players who capitalize off the disrespectful cheating wives?
 

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Omg... Devoted wife is outdated? But they expect men to bear the cross like Jesus? What's working in that society? Players who capitalize off the disrespectful cheating wives?
Women want all the benefits of traditionalism with none of the responsibilities. I've met women who expect men to pay for and take them out to restaurants yet they refuse to ever cook/clean for their man.
 

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Women want all the benefits of traditionalism with none of the responsibilities. I've met women who expect men to pay for and take them out to restaurants yet they refuse to ever cook/clean for their man.
Those women still like sex right? It must be the guy outside the house who is performing that service and also fulfilling the NEED for her to cheat on the husband?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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It's not called Chadstralia for nothing. :rolleyes:
I disagree with the hype. I've seen a lot of Aussie dudes in action and they come off as overly aggressive, creep girls out, and are quite weird. They seem too over the top to do all that well and it seems like the uptightness of their women makes the men more thirsty.
 

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Canada has one of the most polite men I ever see, they act very professional and they are reliable people. On the other hand I so the worst version of women in this planet, the average urban Canadian woman over 25, is evil , deceptive , power hungry and filled with spirt of Misandry and desire to destroy men.

For sure that not apply for every man and woman , but if you live in Toronto , it is safe to assume the above until proven otherwise .
Expect (and experienced this in real life also some blogger wrote about it ) men to find every opportunity to talk to your GF or wife even in your present.
I have not found what you said of Canadian men to be true. If anything, I find Canadian men to be overcompensating in a big way. It is almost like they got so fed up with the world telling them that they are nice that they decided to be even more rude, albeit in a passive aggressive way, to make up for it.

Mike Tyson's interview, especially 1:40, really describes the typical Canadian guy down to a tee and it is especially true for every black dude I've known from Canada for some reason.

 

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I disagree with the hype. I've seen a lot of Aussie dudes in action and they come off as overly aggressive, creep girls out, and are quite weird. They seem too over the top to do all that well and it seems like the uptightness of their women makes the men more thirsty.
You know the local women are bad when a large percentage of the men have to go overseas to find women. Many Australian guys go to Asia to find wives/sex.
 

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You know the local women are bad when a large percentage of the men have to go overseas to find women. Many Australian guys go to Asia to find wives/sex.
Same sh1t with souther europeans...all the planes to poland or the baltics are packed with spanish, italian and turkish men.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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