"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Does Canada have the worst incel epidemic of all the western world? What gives?

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Canada gave us guys like Mystery the pickup artist and it seems like in the PUA scene, Canadians (especially from Toronto) are way over-represented. In the incel community, from what I have seen, Canadians are way over-represented. I have noticed that women from Toronto are probably the most snarky, passive-aggressive, fake, narcissistic, and clout chasing out any other kind of women in the western world.

It kinda screws with my head as an American because growing up, we always thought that Canada = nice and friendly. I am wondering, is this rudeness and horrible behavior something recent in Canadians or was it there for decades and I am just noticing it now as an American because of the internet?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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If we exclude Japan, Australia definitely gives Canada a run for its money. Despite only having 26 million people you will always find a large percentage of Australian users on incel,blackpill and pua forums.
 

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When does nice and friendly wet panties?

Also, a lack of BINGO
 

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There is nothing more toxic than people who think that they're better than everyone else because of xyz reason. Large cities, and especially capital cities are almost always like this.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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There is nothing more toxic than people who think that they're better than everyone else because of xyz reason. Large cities, and especially capital cities are almost always like this.
TBH, I notice this more in tier 2 cities than anywhere else. Like I'll notice this in a San Fran, Toronto, or an Atlanta but not exactly in an NYC or LA as much (it's more outright and straightforward there though). I feel like one of the reasons some cities suck extra hard for game is because people that live in them have an inferiority complex over living in an inferior city so they make up for it by being worse people.
 

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It kinda screws with my head as an American because growing up, we always thought that Canada = nice and friendly. I am wondering, is this rudeness and horrible behavior something recent in Canadians or was it there for decades and I am just noticing it now as an American because of the internet?
Perhaps you are confusing "nice and friendly" with passive and non-violent. The two are not necessarily the same thing. As for the incel situation and low quality of women, it's a product of several factors. Deeply entrenched feminism, residual effects of past puritanical culture, immigrant-heavy population (which means more men than women, and therefore pvssy inflation), and various cultural factors that discourage creativity and innovation have conspired to create a society filled with pvssy-begging beta males and snotty, perpetually dissatisfied females.
 

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Perhaps you are confusing "nice and friendly" with passive and non-violent. The two are not necessarily the same thing. As for the incel situation and low quality of women, it's a product of several factors. Deeply entrenched feminism, residual effects of past puritanical culture, immigrant-heavy population (which means more men than women, and therefore pvssy inflation), and various cultural factors that discourage creativity and innovation have conspired to create a society filled with pvssy-begging beta males and snotty, perpetually dissatisfied females.
How would one of those Canadian or San Franciscan incels currently stuck in a pessimistic self defeating thought loop break out and have relative success in that environment?
 

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Canada gave us guys like Mystery the pickup artist and it seems like in the PUA scene, Canadians (especially from Toronto) are way over-represented. In the incel community, from what I have seen, Canadians are way over-represented. I have noticed that women from Toronto are probably the most snarky, passive-aggressive, fake, narcissistic, and clout chasing out any other kind of women in the western world.

It kinda screws with my head as an American because growing up, we always thought that Canada = nice and friendly. I am wondering, is this rudeness and horrible behavior something recent in Canadians or was it there for decades and I am just noticing it now as an American because of the internet?

We don't call them leafs for nothing. As another mentioned, Aussies are getting pretty damn bad as well.
 

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A non violent society (heavily misregulated) makes women unbearable plain and simple.

The same moment a woman knows that a man will be force to handle whatever she throws at him, she will instantly see him as low value since thats what happens to low value men everywhere.

It's not about the money, the wealth or the culture...it's simply about what each person can and cannot do as much as the conseguences coming from it.

It takes a certain degree of violence to keep in check men, women and the institutions.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I have some incel friends in the SF area. Beyond over for them.
I thought of a way out... They would simply hang with someone who is doing well and they will have to mimic and copy some of the behaviors and styles that are working. They won't be perfect but it would be a quick way out of the hole.
 

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A non violent society (heavily misregulated) makes women unbearable plain and simple.

The same moment a woman knows that a man will be force to handle whatever she throws at him, she will instantly see him as low value since thats what happens to low value men everywhere.

It's not about the money, the wealth or the culture...it's simply about what each person can and cannot do as much as the conseguences coming from it.

It takes a certain degree of violence to keep in check men, women and the institutions.
Will Smith is "low value" in his situation with Jada Pinkett Smith and that won't change as long as he is aligned to her.
 

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Will Smith is "low value" in his situation with Jada Pinkett Smith and that won't change as long as he is aligned to her.
No sh1t, women would see low value in a non violent nice guy who works two high paying jobs and pays lot of taxes but see a pusher as a top dog worth of respect.

She would openly mock the first one to openly show contempt but would only slightly provoke the second one and only to have him sexually aggressive toward her.

The shortcut to inceldom is not ugliness, it's being harmless.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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No sh1t, women would see low value in a non violent nice guy who works two high paying jobs and pays lot of taxes but see a pusher as a top dog worth of respect.

She would openly mock the first one to openly show contempt but would only slightly provoke the second one and only to have him sexually aggressive toward her.

The shortcut to inceldom is not ugliness, it's being harmless.
She thinks the guy who works two high paying job couldn't defend himself or his home if he had to?
 

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No sh1t, women would see low value in a non violent nice guy who works two high paying jobs and pays lot of taxes but see a pusher as a top dog worth of respect.

She would openly mock the first one to openly show contempt but would only slightly provoke the second one and only to have him sexually aggressive toward her.

The shortcut to inceldom is not ugliness, it's being harmless.
I was gonna make a reply to your previous post using exactly that word, "harmless".

I think i de-sexualised myself to a few women recently because ive only showed kindness (helping them in school) and no danger/aggression, nothing that will get their adrenaline flowing. I have a hypothesis that if they saw me get genuinely enraged (which never happens as im too calm and lack any reason to get angry), then their brains would have a "shock" and reassess which category of men to put me in. Of course it's not black and white like that, but on the gradient of sexual attraction, I would guess that displaying danger tends to increase it while displaying harmlessness tends to decrease it.

I have noticed also that the voice tone my mom and my sister use when they speak with me, is different depending on the mood they think im in. They speak more "submissively" when they think im in a more aloof or slightly sullen mood.
 
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She thinks the guy who works two high paying job couldn't defend himself or his home if he had to?
That's the whole point, she doesnt think...it's her biology at work.

I was gonna make a reply to your previous post using exactly that word, "harmless".

I think i de-sexualised myself to a few women recently because ive only showed kindness (helping them in school) and no danger/aggression, nothing that will get their adrenaline flowing. I have a hypothesis that if they saw me get genuinely enraged (which never happens as im too calm and lack any reason to get angry), then their brains would have a "shock" and reassess which category of men to put me in. Of course it's not black and white like that, but on the gradient of sexual attraction, I would guess that displaying danger tends to increase it while displaying harmlessness tends to decrease it.

I have noticed also that the voice tone my mom and my sister use when they speak with me, is different depending on the mood they think im in. They speak more "submissively" when they think im in a more aloof or slightly sullen mood.
You're half black and tall for what I recall, you basically have netflix and mainstream media serving you assits 24/7 to appear manly and dangerous..how the f did you manage to convince women to be a nice guy?

I completly understand and agree about your second point, their hamster powered brain doesnt process fairness or rightfulness but only fear and comfort.

An unfair request from an aggressive individual seem to them more reasonable than a fair request from a nice guy.

Sometime it seems to me that women apologies not cause they realize they made something wrong but cause they can feel anger building up and a release on their asses happening.
 

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That's the whole point, she doesnt think...it's her biology at work.


You're half black and tall for what I recall, you basically have netflix and mainstream media serving you assits 24/7 to appear manly and dangerous..how the f did you manage to convince women to be a nice guy?

I completly understand and agree about your second point, their hamster powered brain doesnt process fairness or rightfulness but only fear and comfort.

An unfair request from an aggressive individual seem to them more reasonable than a fair request from a nice guy.

Sometime it seems to me that women apologies not cause they realize they made something wrong but cause they can feel anger building up and a release on their asses happening.
Do you think it's ALL biology?. Some of this is due to how the culture perceives things. The brainwashing and value systems in the cultures. All cultures won't value the low wavelength drug dealer over the driven guy who can work two full time high paying jobs. He might be an attractive guy in his own right. However in some cultures the drug dealer is highly valued and makes their juices flow.
 

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I thought of a way out... They would simply hang with someone who is doing well and they will have to mimic and copy some of the behaviors and styles that are working. They won't be perfect but it would be a quick way out of the hole.
That has been tried, but, sadly, it has not worked.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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