Does anyone here believe pair bonding for life is possible in the current climate?

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When large sections of men are feminized, their women will automatically balance it out by becoming more masculine, its a subconscious act of survival initiated by the feminine imperative.
This. Spaz is correct. Natural order seeks a homeostasis to propagate life.
 

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Anyways, good luck regardless. I am warning you, this girl power jargon you are pedaling will blow up on your face but i digress.
A significant number of men can’t let go of the equality programming. It rests in them. In many ways it goes back to their programmed political beliefs as well.
Most prevalent in leftist men but not exclusive.
 

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A significant number of men can’t let go of the equality programming. It rests in them. In many ways it goes back to their programmed political beliefs as well.
Most prevalent in leftist men but not exclusive.
Brother I don't think they are equal. I know that they are supposed to be lead by us. They have to be. All I am saying is that they balance out our harsh nature. They are necessary in order to have functional children.
 

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I am a big MMA fan and I was watching a JRE podcast with Will Harris. He went to Daghestan to film Khabib. He said that they were pissed when he tried to film a mans wife. They explained to him that in Islam a man's women is his gem and property. He has to protect her and it is offensive to film her without his permission. As you can imagine the rate of divorce is extremely low in this part of the world.
This is the only way that pair bonding can exist. You have be have cultural pressures against hypergamy and divorce. The Amish also have very low divorces. You need religion or a strong shaming mechanism to keep pair bonding alive.

It is the mens responsibility to protect and never harm that woman. He should treat her like his child. This is why fathers give their daughters to their husband. In a way this is the husbands new daughter ( in a non incestous way of course ).
 

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Brother I don't think they are equal. I know that they are supposed to be lead by us. They have to be. All I am saying is that they balance out our harsh nature. They are necessary in order to have functional children.
We are in complete agreement. Keep in mind that I was not necessarily referring to you in any way. More for guys reading it.
 

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I have a pretty simple formula that pretty much encapsulates the broad male/female dynamic:
Women = Chaos
Men = Order

Women gravitate toward disorder and chaos, and masculine guidance is the only thing that keeps them from mentally disintegrating. Ever since men started listening to a handful of shrill and unruly women 50 years ago (for political votes and acceptance), societal chaos has taken root and been allowed to grow like weeds overtaking a garden.

Speaking of gardens, the biblical account of Adam and Eve illustrates perfectly what has happened to society at large. The woman acted apart from authority and destroyed everything. The bible is clear that she was deceived, while Adam was blatantly disobedient. This is why the downfall of humanity is attributed to Adam, even though it was Eve who disobeyed first.

What worked in the garden, worked so well that it is still in full-force today from satan’s point of view. To destroy the man, you first destroy the woman. You don’t attack the man directly. Instead you leverage the inherent instability of the chaotic woman.

Women cannot govern themselves nor exist with any form of sanity apart from the authority and guidance of men. Since men, out of fear of rejection, have abdicated their role as women’s authority, chaos, instability, insecurity and even violence has reigned supreme.

Women are not inherently evil. They are inherently chaotic and unstable... emotion-driven and desperately in need of guidance and authority. As Spaz and others have said, when masculine authority is absent, women take on the masculine role. This turns them into amoral monsters, woefully bad copies of the male.

The antidote: What do I always say? Judge their words and behavior and call them out on it. Reject them and display disgust for bad behavior. when they go to bed at night it will be YOU they are thinking about because you will have hit a raw nerve within them. You will have penetrated them to their core and given them a little injection of the medicine they subconsciously know they need.

The worst bill of goods we have been sold has been that it is some kind of “weakness” to show that a woman’s behavior or words bothers us. Nonsense! We are in this mess specifically because of this attitude.

The only antidote to the inherent chaos of the female is the strength and authority of the male. This has all but disappeared today. We are the descendants of cowards, by-and-large.

Life is paradox. I decided several years ago to call out women on their words and behavior, thinking “Heck, they don’t like me anyway, so what have I got to lose?”, and lo and behold, I started becoming very desirable to them. Again, this is because in their core, they know they need male guidance and discipline.

Women are indeed children. They cannot exist in a healthy way without “parental” guidance. As someone posted above, in a marriage, the father gives his daughter away to the groom. She now becomes his responsibility to discipline (and love, and lead, etc.).

My fiancé often thanks me for disciplining her. Yet she feels loved and cared for. What has moderated her natural chaotic nature (the nature of all women) has been her innate knowledge of the value of male leadership and discipline. I attribute her valuing of this to her strong faith in God and living by Christian principles. We are three years in and so far, zero sh!t tests.

I’m convinced that if we men walked the earth with assumed authority over women (but a benevolent authority, not an abusive one), the problem of feminism and rebellion would all but vanish. But who among us these days is capable of this? Well, your humble-to-a-fault host for this reading is one, and some of you are, but sadly, not a high percentage.

That’s why I take the time to write my thoughts here. He who has an ear might start to believe that he can change the world by assuming his God-given right (and mandate) to lead and discipline the women within his sphere of influence. The antidote to female chaos lies with us.
 

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I have a pretty simple formula that pretty much encapsulates the broad male/female dynamic:
Women = Chaos
Men = Order

Women gravitate toward disorder and chaos, and masculine guidance is the only thing that keeps them from mentally disintegrating. Ever since men started listening to a handful of shrill and unruly women 50 years ago (for political votes and acceptance), societal chaos has taken root and been allowed to grow like weeds overtaking a garden.

Speaking of gardens, the biblical account of Adam and Eve illustrates perfectly what has happened to society at large. The woman acted apart from authority and destroyed everything. The bible is clear that she was deceived, while Adam was blatantly disobedient. This is why the downfall of humanity is attributed to Adam, even though it was Eve who disobeyed first.

What worked in the garden, worked so well that it is still in full-force today from satan’s point of view. To destroy the man, you first destroy the woman. You don’t attack the man directly. Instead you leverage the inherent instability of the chaotic woman.

Women cannot govern themselves nor exist with any form of sanity apart from the authority and guidance of men. Since men, out of fear of rejection, have abdicated their role as women’s authority, chaos, instability, insecurity and even violence has reigned supreme.

Women are not inherently evil. They are inherently chaotic and unstable... emotion-driven and desperately in need of guidance and authority. As Spaz and others have said, when masculine authority is absent, women take on the masculine role. This turns them into amoral monsters, woefully bad copies of the male.

The antidote: What do I always say? Judge their words and behavior and call them out on it. Reject them and display disgust for bad behavior. when they go to bed at night it will be YOU they are thinking about because you will have hit a raw nerve within them. You will have penetrated them to their core and given them a little injection of the medicine they subconsciously know they need.

The worst bill of goods we have been sold has been that it is some kind of “weakness” to show that a woman’s behavior or words bothers us. Nonsense! We are in this mess specifically because of this attitude.

The only antidote to the inherent chaos of the female is the strength and authority of the male. This has all but disappeared today. We are the descendants of cowards, by-and-large.

Life is paradox. I decided several years ago to call out women on their words and behavior, thinking “Heck, they don’t like me anyway, so what have I got to lose?”, and lo and behold, I started becoming very desirable to them. Again, this is because in their core, they know they need male guidance and discipline.

Women are indeed children. They cannot exist in a healthy way without “parental” guidance. As someone posted above, in a marriage, the father gives his daughter away to the groom. She now becomes his responsibility to discipline (and love, and lead, etc.).

My fiancé often thanks me for disciplining her. Yet she feels loved and cared for. What has moderated her natural chaotic nature (the nature of all women) has been her innate knowledge of the value of male leadership and discipline. I attribute her valuing of this to her strong faith in God and living by Christian principles. We are three years in and so far, zero sh!t tests.

I’m convinced that if we men walked the earth with assumed authority over women (but a benevolent authority, not an abusive one), the problem of feminism and rebellion would all but vanish. But who among us these days is capable of this? Well, your humble-to-a-fault host for this reading is one, and some of you are, but sadly, not a high percentage.

That’s why I take the time to write my thoughts here. He who has an ear might start to believe that he can change the world by assuming his God-given right (and mandate) to lead and discipline the women within his sphere of influence. The antidote to female chaos lies with us.
I agree. Well written.
 

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I’ve given this exact philosophy a lot of thought. It’s the only way it can work.
I mentioned several times that left to their own devices they will ruin their lives and everything in it.

I like your approach...” They don’t like me anyway so what do I have to lose?”

I literally had to rewrite myself to achieve this. I’ve invested a lot of years doing it. Standing outside of it has a calming effect. My mind is calm and relaxed these days. There is zero stress over women.
 

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It all boils down to masculine leadership.

All this talk about Tinder, game, looking pretty, facial products to look good, even silence and distance to create fear, etc, is playing within the feminine imperative.

That game is rigged in favor of women but at the same time it's also a disservice to them.

When a man willingly places himself inside that sphere, he is merely a male passenger in a bus load of men jostling to get to the front, just to be right next to the driver.

And the driver of that bus are women.

Of course you can be the champion amongst the male passengers but u r still not the driver, u r not in charge, u r merely being reactive not proactive.

You guys should discuss more about how to achieve masculine leadership.

This is something that's hard to achieve and when u r starting out, it might really be elusive to be grasped.

However it's you in the driver seat and if women do come along, it's going to be the ride of their lifetime because there's a difference between 2 types of men, one who supplicates or being reactive within the imperative and one who takes women to their femininity.
 

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All this talk about Tinder, game, looking pretty, facial products to look good, even silence and distance to create fear, etc, is playing within the feminine Imperative.
So true. It’s hard for me to read a lot of the threads due to this. It’s the wrong model.
 

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I have a pretty simple formula that pretty much encapsulates the broad male/female dynamic:
Women = Chaos
Men = Order

Women gravitate toward disorder and chaos, and masculine guidance is the only thing that keeps them from mentally disintegrating. Ever since men started listening to a handful of shrill and unruly women 50 years ago (for political votes and acceptance), societal chaos has taken root and been allowed to grow like weeds overtaking a garden.

Speaking of gardens, the biblical account of Adam and Eve illustrates perfectly what has happened to society at large. The woman acted apart from authority and destroyed everything. The bible is clear that she was deceived, while Adam was blatantly disobedient. This is why the downfall of humanity is attributed to Adam, even though it was Eve who disobeyed first.

What worked in the garden, worked so well that it is still in full-force today from satan’s point of view. To destroy the man, you first destroy the woman. You don’t attack the man directly. Instead you leverage the inherent instability of the chaotic woman.

Women cannot govern themselves nor exist with any form of sanity apart from the authority and guidance of men. Since men, out of fear of rejection, have abdicated their role as women’s authority, chaos, instability, insecurity and even violence has reigned supreme.

Women are not inherently evil. They are inherently chaotic and unstable... emotion-driven and desperately in need of guidance and authority. As Spaz and others have said, when masculine authority is absent, women take on the masculine role. This turns them into amoral monsters, woefully bad copies of the male.

The antidote: What do I always say? Judge their words and behavior and call them out on it. Reject them and display disgust for bad behavior. when they go to bed at night it will be YOU they are thinking about because you will have hit a raw nerve within them. You will have penetrated them to their core and given them a little injection of the medicine they subconsciously know they need.

The worst bill of goods we have been sold has been that it is some kind of “weakness” to show that a woman’s behavior or words bothers us. Nonsense! We are in this mess specifically because of this attitude.

The only antidote to the inherent chaos of the female is the strength and authority of the male. This has all but disappeared today. We are the descendants of cowards, by-and-large.

Life is paradox. I decided several years ago to call out women on their words and behavior, thinking “Heck, they don’t like me anyway, so what have I got to lose?”, and lo and behold, I started becoming very desirable to them. Again, this is because in their core, they know they need male guidance and discipline.

Women are indeed children. They cannot exist in a healthy way without “parental” guidance. As someone posted above, in a marriage, the father gives his daughter away to the groom. She now becomes his responsibility to discipline (and love, and lead, etc.).

My fiancé often thanks me for disciplining her. Yet she feels loved and cared for. What has moderated her natural chaotic nature (the nature of all women) has been her innate knowledge of the value of male leadership and discipline. I attribute her valuing of this to her strong faith in God and living by Christian principles. We are three years in and so far, zero sh!t tests.

I’m convinced that if we men walked the earth with assumed authority over women (but a benevolent authority, not an abusive one), the problem of feminism and rebellion would all but vanish. But who among us these days is capable of this? Well, your humble-to-a-fault host for this reading is one, and some of you are, but sadly, not a high percentage.

That’s why I take the time to write my thoughts here. He who has an ear might start to believe that he can change the world by assuming his God-given right (and mandate) to lead and discipline the women within his sphere of influence. The antidote to female chaos lies with us.
I agree. Check your inbox if/when you have a chance.
 

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A significant number of men can’t let go of the equality programming. It rests in them. In many ways it goes back to their programmed political beliefs as well.
Most prevalent in leftist men but not exclusive.
I was out with a girl recently. Not my girl. Just my turn. A plate.

A random likely homeless junkie approached her and was acting crazy.

My innate response was to pull her in close to me as in MINE followed by raising my hand as if to punch. The weirdo disengaged but I guarantee a lot of low testosterone males would have ran away.

If you were to ask me beforehand, I would say **** that ****. I wont put myself in harms way for a woman. Unfortunately, I have a programming as do all men. You won't hear anything about it on the news but false accusations are pedaled without failure.

Its a enlightening experience because i wouldn't consciously proceed with the route of action I took or was prepared to take. That being, I would have crushed his skull without remorse if he attempted to hurt her or I. This was a split sec reaction. Its 1000s of years of evolutionary psychology and hardwired in male genes..

There's no two ways about it. Unplugging is the hardest task a man will ever do. The experience further instills I have more than enough work to do.

If anything, society's failure to recognise male sacrifice and virtue will come at a great cost. I wont make the move again. Lesson learned.
 

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I have a pretty simple formula that pretty much encapsulates the broad male/female dynamic:
Women = Chaos
Men = Order

Women gravitate toward disorder and chaos, and masculine guidance is the only thing that keeps them from mentally disintegrating. Ever since men started listening to a handful of shrill and unruly women 50 years ago (for political votes and acceptance), societal chaos has taken root and been allowed to grow like weeds overtaking a garden.

Speaking of gardens, the biblical account of Adam and Eve illustrates perfectly what has happened to society at large. The woman acted apart from authority and destroyed everything. The bible is clear that she was deceived, while Adam was blatantly disobedient. This is why the downfall of humanity is attributed to Adam, even though it was Eve who disobeyed first.

What worked in the garden, worked so well that it is still in full-force today from satan’s point of view. To destroy the man, you first destroy the woman. You don’t attack the man directly. Instead you leverage the inherent instability of the chaotic woman.

Women cannot govern themselves nor exist with any form of sanity apart from the authority and guidance of men. Since men, out of fear of rejection, have abdicated their role as women’s authority, chaos, instability, insecurity and even violence has reigned supreme.

Women are not inherently evil. They are inherently chaotic and unstable... emotion-driven and desperately in need of guidance and authority. As Spaz and others have said, when masculine authority is absent, women take on the masculine role. This turns them into amoral monsters, woefully bad copies of the male.

The antidote: What do I always say? Judge their words and behavior and call them out on it. Reject them and display disgust for bad behavior. when they go to bed at night it will be YOU they are thinking about because you will have hit a raw nerve within them. You will have penetrated them to their core and given them a little injection of the medicine they subconsciously know they need.

The worst bill of goods we have been sold has been that it is some kind of “weakness” to show that a woman’s behavior or words bothers us. Nonsense! We are in this mess specifically because of this attitude.

The only antidote to the inherent chaos of the female is the strength and authority of the male. This has all but disappeared today. We are the descendants of cowards, by-and-large.

Life is paradox. I decided several years ago to call out women on their words and behavior, thinking “Heck, they don’t like me anyway, so what have I got to lose?”, and lo and behold, I started becoming very desirable to them. Again, this is because in their core, they know they need male guidance and discipline.

Women are indeed children. They cannot exist in a healthy way without “parental” guidance. As someone posted above, in a marriage, the father gives his daughter away to the groom. She now becomes his responsibility to discipline (and love, and lead, etc.).

My fiancé often thanks me for disciplining her. Yet she feels loved and cared for. What has moderated her natural chaotic nature (the nature of all women) has been her innate knowledge of the value of male leadership and discipline. I attribute her valuing of this to her strong faith in God and living by Christian principles. We are three years in and so far, zero sh!t tests.

I’m convinced that if we men walked the earth with assumed authority over women (but a benevolent authority, not an abusive one), the problem of feminism and rebellion would all but vanish. But who among us these days is capable of this? Well, your humble-to-a-fault host for this reading is one, and some of you are, but sadly, not a high percentage.

That’s why I take the time to write my thoughts here. He who has an ear might start to believe that he can change the world by assuming his God-given right (and mandate) to lead and discipline the women within his sphere of influence. The antidote to female chaos lies with us.
This is fire bro. Classic post.
 

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Women are chaos to our order. This is why I don't try to decipher why a girl acted in a weird way anymore. More often then not the reason is a chaotic one. It usually has nothing to do with hypergamy, smv, or any other one of the typical pub answers. The real answer is scary. She cant even articulate the answer. The decision was made on a whim and reinforced by her extreme abundance. It has no real basis in anything.

It is a disservice when we automatically blame the guy for some failure on his part. Just the other day some girl called me and told me the reason she ghosted me had nothing to do with me and she is sorry. She had to figure out her self exploration ( now she misses me) blah blah blah...this was after I smashed. They are chaotic bundles of emotions and anti logic. Once you understand this they tend to upset you less.
 
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If the couple has pair bonding as one of their goals and values. If they want the relationship to be a priority.

I'm finding Athol Kay's columns to be very accurate. A "Captain and First mate" where the Ship is the Relationship....
 

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If you enter into spiritual environments, you will find a series of blasphemy and cuck. A lot of female ministers lol found God but cucked hubby. Its beyond asinine.

Its typical for women to pedal poly and open LTR and cuck when top form SMV 18-23. Its purely hilarious that as her decay descent kicks off, she's now found God. She's a reformed slut. Donovan Sharpe made a vid about a slut writing she's not 1 despite hundreds of kills. Of course, we're to rewrite the English language because her sexual strategy has run a muck and her being a train wreck doesn't feel nice. Its all about the feels. It's not her responsibility for poor Lifestyle choices and being a jump off.

Meanwhile hotter girls are turning 18 19 20 21 every day.

Its why men need to be forged in the fire. Take the hit. Dust self off. Repeat. Calibrate. Develop game. Chase excellence. Pursue self knowledge. Explore consciousness. The mark is self actualization.

Playing house and being a cuck is not the benchmark. Its what 100% of men sign up for like lambs to be slaughtered.
 

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If the couple has pair bonding as one of their goals and values. If they want the relationship to be a priority.

I'm finding Athol Kay's columns to be very accurate. A "Captain and First mate" where the Ship is the Relationship....
Its a cute idea and its ideal for children but its cuck. If her best years are spent as a jump off and bulking season is saved for her hubby he's pathetic and spineless.
 
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