SeymourCake
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Have you ever known women who lied about their virginity?
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Do women lie about their virginity?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Eternal_water
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they don't need to, unlike guys who do need to.
Michele l'Arcangelo
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Definitely do lie about it.
seethehoop
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Women don't lie, they just let their emotions lead and say whatever reflects their emotional state at that time. Female logic! Its not a lie just a state of mind 
Bible_Belt
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Is there anything that women don't lie about?
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Zippapants
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Depends on the woman, I think. As a whole, I would say that it's not something that they care enough about to lie for, unless they have something to gain. In my experience, women have been pretty truthful in that regard.
Iceberg
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Nah, bro. But I don't really hang out with virgins.SeymourCake said:
Just the thought of someone in my age group being a virgin creeps me out.
Upside
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Girl says to you "I lost it at 20 and have only been with 3 guys"
The honest answer is -4 to age and +10 on the guy count, usually.
The honest answer is -4 to age and +10 on the guy count, usually.
Eternal_water
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why?Iceberg said:
Mike32ct
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Pretty much.Upside said:
"I've been with x guys." = I officially (publicly) had x serious relationships. Club bathroom hookups with the tattooed guy, vacation sex with the tall foriegn guy with the hot accent, frat party hookups, and going home with a bartender on Thursday night does not count towards the total.
The biggest 50 yo cougar slore I know insists she's only been with two guys. She's been married twice.
Do women lie about virginity? Maybe a few young ones might if they are pretending to be a good girl.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
coochieman
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Yep! They do!
The so called two "virgins" I penetrated, weren't virgins at all. Didn't really bug any one of 'em out about lying.
Don't care. Long as I'm getting banged.
The so called two "virgins" I penetrated, weren't virgins at all. Didn't really bug any one of 'em out about lying.
Don't care. Long as I'm getting banged.
Iceberg
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It just seems abnormal to me. Sex is a very normal and natural thing. Food, water, sleep, sex. How could an attractive and emotionally-healthy person go without sex deep into their 20's and early 30's?Eternal_water said:
I can understand if there are religious reasons. But otherwise, it just seems odd to me.
Mike32ct
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I can understand if it's a guy. Some guys really do struggle to get laid.Iceberg said:
But women have no excuse. A woman in that age range is a virgin by choice, whether it's a religious thing or she's just really picky.
You are totally right, but are assuming everyone has the same game you do. Food is a business, water is a business, sleep is solo act. Sex requires consent within 2 parties, it's not like buying a chocolate bar at 7-11. It's part of a game and how well you play.Iceberg said:
But yeah, virgin in 30s, brutal.
I once dated a Catholic girl who freaked out when I tried to have sex with her, saying it was a 'mortal sin' and I was an awful person for even thinking of it.
Two weeks later she invited herself over and we did it...she admitted it wasn't her first time either. Girls are crazy, what can I say.
Two weeks later she invited herself over and we did it...she admitted it wasn't her first time either. Girls are crazy, what can I say.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
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All women lie. They lie about a lot of things. Then again, men lie and say whatever to get with a girl.
Women prefer exciting lies over boring truths.
Case closed.
Women prefer exciting lies over boring truths.
Case closed.
