"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Do women lie about their virginity?

SeymourCake

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Have you ever known women who lied about their virginity?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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seethehoop

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Women don't lie, they just let their emotions lead and say whatever reflects their emotional state at that time. Female logic! Its not a lie just a state of mind ;)
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Depends on the woman, I think. As a whole, I would say that it's not something that they care enough about to lie for, unless they have something to gain. In my experience, women have been pretty truthful in that regard.
 

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SeymourCake said:
Have you ever known women who lied about their virginity?
Nah, bro. But I don't really hang out with virgins.

Just the thought of someone in my age group being a virgin creeps me out.
 

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Girl says to you "I lost it at 20 and have only been with 3 guys"

The honest answer is -4 to age and +10 on the guy count, usually.
 

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Iceberg said:
Nah, bro. But I don't really hang out with virgins.

Just the thought of someone in my age group being a virgin creeps me out.
why?
 

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Upside said:
Girl says to you "I lost it at 20 and have only been with 3 guys"

The honest answer is -4 to age and +10 on the guy count, usually.
Pretty much.

"I've been with x guys." = I officially (publicly) had x serious relationships. Club bathroom hookups with the tattooed guy, vacation sex with the tall foriegn guy with the hot accent, frat party hookups, and going home with a bartender on Thursday night does not count towards the total.

The biggest 50 yo cougar slore I know insists she's only been with two guys. She's been married twice.

Do women lie about virginity? Maybe a few young ones might if they are pretending to be a good girl.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Eternal_water said:
It just seems abnormal to me. Sex is a very normal and natural thing. Food, water, sleep, sex. How could an attractive and emotionally-healthy person go without sex deep into their 20's and early 30's?

I can understand if there are religious reasons. But otherwise, it just seems odd to me.
 

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Iceberg said:
It just seems abnormal to me. Sex is a very normal and natural thing. Food, water, sleep, sex. How could an attractive and emotionally-healthy person go without sex deep into their 20's and early 30's?

I can understand if there are religious reasons. But otherwise, it just seems odd to me.
I can understand if it's a guy. Some guys really do struggle to get laid.

But women have no excuse. A woman in that age range is a virgin by choice, whether it's a religious thing or she's just really picky.
 

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Iceberg said:
It just seems abnormal to me. Sex is a very normal and natural thing. Food, water, sleep, sex. How could an attractive and emotionally-healthy person go without sex deep into their 20's and early 30's?
You are totally right, but are assuming everyone has the same game you do. Food is a business, water is a business, sleep is solo act. Sex requires consent within 2 parties, it's not like buying a chocolate bar at 7-11. It's part of a game and how well you play.

But yeah, virgin in 30s, brutal.
 

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I once dated a Catholic girl who freaked out when I tried to have sex with her, saying it was a 'mortal sin' and I was an awful person for even thinking of it.

Two weeks later she invited herself over and we did it...she admitted it wasn't her first time either. Girls are crazy, what can I say.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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All women lie. They lie about a lot of things. Then again, men lie and say whatever to get with a girl.

Women prefer exciting lies over boring truths.

Case closed.
 

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You are totally right, but are assuming everyone has the same game you do. Food is a business, water is a business, sleep is solo act. Sex requires consent within 2 parties, it's not like buying a chocolate bar at 7-11. It's part of a game and how well you play.

But yeah, virgin in 30s, brutal.
in a lot of countries you can buy sex too
 
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