SeymourCake
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Have you ever known women who lied about their virginity?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Do women lie about their virginity?
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Eternal_water
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they don't need to, unlike guys who do need to.
Michele l'Arcangelo
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Definitely do lie about it.
seethehoop
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Women don't lie, they just let their emotions lead and say whatever reflects their emotional state at that time. Female logic! Its not a lie just a state of mind 
Bible_Belt
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Is there anything that women don't lie about?
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Zippapants
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Depends on the woman, I think. As a whole, I would say that it's not something that they care enough about to lie for, unless they have something to gain. In my experience, women have been pretty truthful in that regard.
Iceberg
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Nah, bro. But I don't really hang out with virgins.SeymourCake said:
Just the thought of someone in my age group being a virgin creeps me out.
Upside
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Girl says to you "I lost it at 20 and have only been with 3 guys"
The honest answer is -4 to age and +10 on the guy count, usually.
The honest answer is -4 to age and +10 on the guy count, usually.
Eternal_water
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why?Iceberg said:
Mike32ct
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Pretty much.Upside said:
"I've been with x guys." = I officially (publicly) had x serious relationships. Club bathroom hookups with the tattooed guy, vacation sex with the tall foriegn guy with the hot accent, frat party hookups, and going home with a bartender on Thursday night does not count towards the total.
The biggest 50 yo cougar slore I know insists she's only been with two guys. She's been married twice.
Do women lie about virginity? Maybe a few young ones might if they are pretending to be a good girl.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
coochieman
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Yep! They do!
The so called two "virgins" I penetrated, weren't virgins at all. Didn't really bug any one of 'em out about lying.
Don't care. Long as I'm getting banged.
The so called two "virgins" I penetrated, weren't virgins at all. Didn't really bug any one of 'em out about lying.
Don't care. Long as I'm getting banged.
Iceberg
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It just seems abnormal to me. Sex is a very normal and natural thing. Food, water, sleep, sex. How could an attractive and emotionally-healthy person go without sex deep into their 20's and early 30's?Eternal_water said:
I can understand if there are religious reasons. But otherwise, it just seems odd to me.
Mike32ct
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I can understand if it's a guy. Some guys really do struggle to get laid.Iceberg said:
But women have no excuse. A woman in that age range is a virgin by choice, whether it's a religious thing or she's just really picky.
You are totally right, but are assuming everyone has the same game you do. Food is a business, water is a business, sleep is solo act. Sex requires consent within 2 parties, it's not like buying a chocolate bar at 7-11. It's part of a game and how well you play.Iceberg said:
But yeah, virgin in 30s, brutal.
I once dated a Catholic girl who freaked out when I tried to have sex with her, saying it was a 'mortal sin' and I was an awful person for even thinking of it.
Two weeks later she invited herself over and we did it...she admitted it wasn't her first time either. Girls are crazy, what can I say.
Two weeks later she invited herself over and we did it...she admitted it wasn't her first time either. Girls are crazy, what can I say.
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
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All women lie. They lie about a lot of things. Then again, men lie and say whatever to get with a girl.
Women prefer exciting lies over boring truths.
Case closed.
Women prefer exciting lies over boring truths.
Case closed.
