"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Do red pill men eventually hit the wall?

DemFeeelz

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In your opinion do red pill men eventually hit the wall at a certain age in their ability to attract prime quality young women?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Desdinova

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I have a friend who just turned 50. Last year he got married to an attractive 26 year old.

Men are the ones who build & tear down their own wall. If you think you're too old to attract a good looking woman, then you WILL be too old to attract one.
 

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Desdinova said:
I have a friend who just turned 50. Last year he got married to an attractive 26 year old.

Men are the ones who build & tear down their own wall. If you think you're too old to attract a good looking woman, then you WILL be too old to attract one.

Yup. So true. We do it to ourselves, we have control over our wall (for the most part).

Thats why women want to brain wash male children to be blue pill, it makes them tame and easy to manipulate. Funny how womens version of equality is not opportunities to better themselves, but instead they want to bring men down to their level.

It's a womans goal to avoid the wall (hence make up, when they are ugly or old) and a mans goal to destroy the wall (not being beta). Think about it, why do you think women use so much make up when they get older, and try to brainwash men into thinking they have issues for liking youthful women.

Its really twisted, women dont want equality in the sense of having to work hard to get up to mens level, they just want to bring men down.
 

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Yeah, I would say it's probably 70. I have a couple of mid 60s friends who work out, have kept in shape and still pull women under 30. Maybe when they turn 70 they will keep it up and prove me wrong.
 

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everyone have a wall, question is can you climb it when you find yours?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Desdinova said:
I have a friend who just turned 50. Last year he got married to an attractive 26 year old.

Men are the ones who build & tear down their own wall. If you think you're too old to attract a good looking woman, then you WILL be too old to attract one.
Example: Eminem?
 

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The only "wall" for a man is death: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-476980/Worlds-oldest-father-21st-child-90.html

Men have no expiration date.. provided they don't make stupid decisions in their youth. This is why I preach focusing on health, education, freedom, etc. Women will always be there. No reason to chase them like you're running out of time. Most women walking around today suffer from mental illness and are not fit for any type of commitment beyond a few years.

Once a man experiences abundance.. he realizes how easy it is to bring women into his life AND how easy it is to replace them. Women are simply always there. Just don't let them f*ck you over and you'll be fine until old age. So I don't understand the thirst and co-dependence of desperate blue pill betas.

It takes either extreme stupidity or severe emotional frailty to be blue pill.

VikingKing said:
Yup. So true. We do it to ourselves, we have control over our wall (for the most part).

Thats why women want to brain wash male children to be blue pill, it makes them tame and easy to manipulate. Funny how womens version of equality is not opportunities to better themselves, but instead they want to bring men down to their level.

It's a womans goal to avoid the wall (hence make up, when they are ugly or old) and a mans goal to destroy the wall (not being beta). Think about it, why do you think women use so much make up when they get older, and try to brainwash men into thinking they have issues for liking youthful women.

Its really twisted, women dont want equality in the sense of having to work hard to get up to mens level, they just want to bring men down.
Gold :up:
 

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Dear PoonKing,
"Men have no expiration date.. provided they don't make stupid decisions in their youth. This is why I preach focusing on health, education, freedom, etc. Women will always be there. No reason to chase them like you're running out of time. Most women walking around today suffer from mental illness and are not fit for any type of commitment beyond a few years."....You are wise beyond your years...Confidence is everything!
 

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Desdinova said:
Try Paul McCartney and it's not just because he's a Beatle. You don't see Michelle Phillips from the Mamas & The Papas with a young good looking man.
If Paul was living off Social Security checks he'd have no young woman. Mariah Carey, Joan Collins, Robin Wright, Tina Turner, Cher, Geena Davis, Demi Moore, Linda Hogan have younger men.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Newby 15 said:
If Paul was living off Social Security checks he'd have no young woman. Mariah Carey, Joan Collins, Robin Wright, Tina Turner, Cher, Geena Davis, Demi Moore, Linda Hogan have younger men.
If all of those women are living off Social Security checks, they'd have no younger men.
 

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I don't think men have a "wall" per se but they do have declining attractiveness from probably their late-30s -- or maybe early 40s if they've kept themselves in shape -- into their 50s and 60s.

The decline is just not as sharp as womens'. I don't really think womens' is a "wall" either. More like a slide. A fast, greased slide that drops them from highly f*ckable in their 20s to washed up in their 30s and essentially unf*ckable in their 40s.

But to think that men can bang any young chick at any geriatric age is delusional. Even if you're throwing out a sh*t-ton of cash, the vast majority of chicks will want nothing to do with you when you remind them of gramps.
 

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There comes a time when 20 something's are just less interesting. Sure they look nice. But that's all they have going for them.

I don't think that's sour grapes.

Other than the packaging and some 'remember when' moments, I have little to no interest in women much under the age of 50. And whole there are not plenty of decent women at that age, it's worth it to find them and I'm lucky enough to do so regularly.

'Grey game' is different. And not too shabby either.
 

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Dear TicTac,
I do so agree with you...I also find the Older Women better in the sack,what about you?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I'll echo what BB usually says on these threads, and that is men hit a wall as soon as they become complacent. If a man is substandard and brings nothing to the table, their wall might as well be a cliff. While men have the choice, most in my experience choose poorly and probably don't have to worry about an imaginary wall.
 

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dasein said:
Yeah, I would say it's probably 70. I have a couple of mid 60s friends who work out, have kept in shape and still pull women under 30. Maybe when they turn 70 they will keep it up and prove me wrong.
So if a woman in her 50 or (these days in 60 ) and sleep with young guys mean she didnt hit the wall yet ?
 

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evan12 said:
So if a woman in her 50 or (these days in 60 ) and sleep with young guys mean she didnt hit the wall yet ?
Total apples and oranges. Women can always find a lay no matter how fat or old due to alcohol and betas, but they passed the wall of attracting average and above quality men long ago, and would have immense problems forming a relationship with young men unless they were loaded. Not so men. There are far more 20+ age gaps male older than female than female older than male.
 
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