Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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did sosuave come first?

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Actually, the pimp sites were the first!
 

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Have you guys ever heard of the Internet Archive? http://www.archive.org/index.php

It's actually pretty cool, you can go find websites the way they use to be. I've even managed to find a few on there that I use to visit before they closed down.

Anyway, this is Sosuave back on June 06, 2000.
http://web.archive.org/web/20000606231254/http://www.sosuave.com/

While I don't remember the exact date I found it, this is roughly what Sosuave was when I stumbled into it.
http://web.archive.org/web/20030217112919/http://sosuave.com/

The forums are actually archived on there too, so it's pretty funny to check them out. From the time I found it, most of the people aren't around anymore, some still are. In the first archive, I didn't recognize anybody at all. The topics being discussed haven't changed a bit though.

As for which came first, I'm not sure. I tried checking fastseduction but it's not archived, and I'm not aware of too many other community websites. Maybe someone else can check it out to see which ones were first.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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redspicyflag said:
I'm curious though

since the pua's use our terminology

or do we use their's?
we use theirs... honestly I think most belong to DD mystery and that speed seduction guy. AMOG, LMR, ***** shield are Mystery.
 

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Most likely, it all came around within the same year, and everything shared with everything else.

Or not, I have no idea. ^_^
 

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Capt.Jack Sparrow said:
ahhhh I remember the day I found that. it was back in september of 2003, i was a freshmen in highschool... good ol days

you lucky mf i didnt find out about this stuff till frosh or soph year of college. if i knew what i knew now in hschool i would of been killing it back then
 

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I believe the order goes something like this: Speed Seduction -> mASF (fastseduction) -> Sosuave. So yes, the PUA scene came about sosuave. That's where much of the terminology derived. Also, yes I know I left out a boatload of other sites and "mentors" :)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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