"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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did sosuave come first?

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Actually, the pimp sites were the first!
 

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Have you guys ever heard of the Internet Archive? http://www.archive.org/index.php

It's actually pretty cool, you can go find websites the way they use to be. I've even managed to find a few on there that I use to visit before they closed down.

Anyway, this is Sosuave back on June 06, 2000.
http://web.archive.org/web/20000606231254/http://www.sosuave.com/

While I don't remember the exact date I found it, this is roughly what Sosuave was when I stumbled into it.
http://web.archive.org/web/20030217112919/http://sosuave.com/

The forums are actually archived on there too, so it's pretty funny to check them out. From the time I found it, most of the people aren't around anymore, some still are. In the first archive, I didn't recognize anybody at all. The topics being discussed haven't changed a bit though.

As for which came first, I'm not sure. I tried checking fastseduction but it's not archived, and I'm not aware of too many other community websites. Maybe someone else can check it out to see which ones were first.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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redspicyflag said:
I'm curious though

since the pua's use our terminology

or do we use their's?
we use theirs... honestly I think most belong to DD mystery and that speed seduction guy. AMOG, LMR, ***** shield are Mystery.
 

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Most likely, it all came around within the same year, and everything shared with everything else.

Or not, I have no idea. ^_^
 

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Capt.Jack Sparrow said:
ahhhh I remember the day I found that. it was back in september of 2003, i was a freshmen in highschool... good ol days

you lucky mf i didnt find out about this stuff till frosh or soph year of college. if i knew what i knew now in hschool i would of been killing it back then
 

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I believe the order goes something like this: Speed Seduction -> mASF (fastseduction) -> Sosuave. So yes, the PUA scene came about sosuave. That's where much of the terminology derived. Also, yes I know I left out a boatload of other sites and "mentors" :)
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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