"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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did sosuave come first?

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Actually, the pimp sites were the first!
 

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Have you guys ever heard of the Internet Archive? http://www.archive.org/index.php

It's actually pretty cool, you can go find websites the way they use to be. I've even managed to find a few on there that I use to visit before they closed down.

Anyway, this is Sosuave back on June 06, 2000.
http://web.archive.org/web/20000606231254/http://www.sosuave.com/

While I don't remember the exact date I found it, this is roughly what Sosuave was when I stumbled into it.
http://web.archive.org/web/20030217112919/http://sosuave.com/

The forums are actually archived on there too, so it's pretty funny to check them out. From the time I found it, most of the people aren't around anymore, some still are. In the first archive, I didn't recognize anybody at all. The topics being discussed haven't changed a bit though.

As for which came first, I'm not sure. I tried checking fastseduction but it's not archived, and I'm not aware of too many other community websites. Maybe someone else can check it out to see which ones were first.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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redspicyflag said:
I'm curious though

since the pua's use our terminology

or do we use their's?
we use theirs... honestly I think most belong to DD mystery and that speed seduction guy. AMOG, LMR, ***** shield are Mystery.
 

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Most likely, it all came around within the same year, and everything shared with everything else.

Or not, I have no idea. ^_^
 

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Capt.Jack Sparrow said:
ahhhh I remember the day I found that. it was back in september of 2003, i was a freshmen in highschool... good ol days

you lucky mf i didnt find out about this stuff till frosh or soph year of college. if i knew what i knew now in hschool i would of been killing it back then
 

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I believe the order goes something like this: Speed Seduction -> mASF (fastseduction) -> Sosuave. So yes, the PUA scene came about sosuave. That's where much of the terminology derived. Also, yes I know I left out a boatload of other sites and "mentors" :)
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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