"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Did I Start DJing too Late?

AlexKaiser

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So most of the girls I'm interested in are in the 18-21 age group, and before I had no confidence, no self-awareness (I used to think orbiting was the way to go, and the other AFC rumors to winning girl's hearts) and basically no game. After delving into this site and reading up on tips and advice, I believe that I can confidently start taking girls out on dates and avoiding all of the red flags that would turn me into a virgin worshiper at her feet.

Problem is I'm 25, going to be 26 this year. The attractive girls my age are raising kids they ended up being surprised with when they were 16-20, and are all looking for insta-daddies, and are basically on the "Looking for a serious partner to help me raise these kids because their dad bailed out."

Would aiming for girls younger than me be a bad idea due to the age gap, or will it not matter?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Infern0

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Lol im 30 and Have NO problems getting 18-21 (my preferred age group too) and theres guys on this site considerably older than me who do too.

The one thing i would say is you do need to maximize your appearence to be succesful with that age group, but a guy 25-35 who looks good, in killer shape with confidence, those young girls love it.
 

lizardking82

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You're in the best age range to get them
Exactly. But still, do that only if you want casual sex. If you're looking for any kind of stability, sway off that age because they do not know the concept even if you give them a 5 hour presentation about it LOL
 

froznie

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So most of the girls I'm interested in are in the 18-21 age group, and before I had no confidence, no self-awareness (I used to think orbiting was the way to go, and the other AFC rumors to winning girl's hearts) and basically no game. After delving into this site and reading up on tips and advice, I believe that I can confidently start taking girls out on dates and avoiding all of the red flags that would turn me into a virgin worshiper at her feet.

Problem is I'm 25, going to be 26 this year. The attractive girls my age are raising kids they ended up being surprised with when they were 16-20, and are all looking for insta-daddies, and are basically on the "Looking for a serious partner to help me raise these kids because their dad bailed out."

Would aiming for girls younger than me be a bad idea due to the age gap, or will it not matter?
Might matter for some girls, might not matter for others

my advice is just don't think about it. Stop caring. Stop thinking about it

Just think aobut WHAT YOU WANT

thats all that matters for you

other people think about what they want. Women think about what they want. Some are horny sluts and want to **** everyone. Some want marriage and kids. Who gives a ****.

You think about what you want

Forget everything else. Don't think about being good enough or having enough game or whatever it is. Don't lose your focus. Think about what you want. Because that's what she's doing.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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lizardking82

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Older women give you the wrong kind of stability
No, no, I totally agree, I did not say go for older women per se. I just mean, since he's 25/26, going for women his age gives him a much better chance of dealing with a person that has had some experiences (life, sexual, etc) and is much more mature in her brain. Of course there are 25/26 year old girls and even older who know nothing whatsoever and are not mature/stable, but I think chances of finding someone who might be willing to settle down are low when they're 18/19.
 

Red Legg

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I am 45 almost 46 and have fvcked 18-50.There is no restriction for a DJ, fvck whatever is legally possible in your area.I am quite confident a 90 year old DJ could get women in their 20's no problem with proper grandpa game.
 
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