She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
That is soooo ****ing true. We sure may be glad that women don't judge us on our looks as much as we do with them. Let's face it, the ugly women will never get a great lover. They may get a nice (desperate) husband, but they'll never going to get a great lover (without the help of mr. plastic surgery)I agree big time with Social Engineering. He hit the main point right on the head! Those books for women will not work! No ****ing way! If she isn't pretty, if I'm not attracted to her physical, there is absolutely no way in hell I'll fall for her. Even if I wanted to and tried! I guess that's an advantage us guys have over girls. We might not be that physically attractive to her, but we can do things to make her feel attracted to us. A girl on the other hand, if we don't find her physically attractive (and she's reached her max on the ten scale, meaning she's at the best she could possibly be without losing anymore weight, boob job, etc.), then there's absolutely nothing she can do to make us feel a genuine attraction to her. She can study Mark Matthews material and other stuff 10 X more than we study this **** and she still won't get any where. THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING A GIRL CAN DO TO MAKE US FEEL ATTRACTED TO HER IF WE DON'T FIND HER PHYSICALLY ATTRACTIVE.
I've been very fortunate in life in that I've never had a hard time meeting women or getting dates... but finding a woman who can keep my interest and attention has always been a different story...
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
definitely true. At best, she can become a friend.Originally posted by john_1234
I agree big time with Social Engineering. He hit the main point right on the head! Those books for women will not work! No ****ing way! If she isn't pretty, if I'm not attracted to her physical, there is absolutely no way in hell I'll fall for her. Even if I wanted to and tried! I guess that's an advantage us guys have over girls. We might not be that physically attractive to her, but we can do things to make her feel attracted to us. A girl on the other hand, if we don't find her physically attractive (and she's reached her max on the ten scale, meaning she's at the best she could possibly be without losing anymore weight, boob job, etc.), then there's absolutely nothing she can do to make us feel a genuine attraction to her. She can study Mark Matthews material and other stuff 10 X more than we study this **** and she still won't get any where. THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING A GIRL CAN DO TO MAKE US FEEL ATTRACTED TO HER IF WE DON'T FIND HER PHYSICALLY ATTRACTIVE.
This is a blatant lie that society has been brainwashing you with. Women are very, very simple creatures. They work more on emotion and less logic when it comes to attraction. That's about it. They're still human like men.Originally posted by Social Engineering
Woman are way more complex.
Emotions are complex, so essentially he is right. And I don't think they work with less logic if you say they're simple they do indeed work with logic. They just can incorporate their emotions quite well when it comes into play which is also can be their weakness if they lose control over it.Originally posted by TillTheEndOfTime
This is a blatant lie that society has been brainwashing you with. Women are very, very simple creatures. They work more on emotion and less logic when it comes to attraction. That's about it. They're still human like men.
Originally posted by DonJuanMonk
I just wanted to say that anyone who has a last name Italiano-style is a sleazeball.
Just wanted to let you know.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
In a way this is right, but look at it this way. We as men, try figuring out women with logic, when they don't necessarily work on logic. So we're really using the wrong tools for the job. Any job can look more complex than it really is when you use the wrong tools. Try tightening a screw with a hammer, you'll find it is pretty difficult.Originally posted by DonJuanMonk
Emotions are complex, so essentially he is right. And I don't think they work with less logic if you say they're simple they do indeed work with logic. They just can incorporate their emotions quite well when it comes into play which is also can be their weakness if they lose control over it.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Most posters on this thread suffer from selective listening/reading. Or ADD.Originally posted by Tweek_1984
Wow, this is pretty suprising.
So is DeAngelos material still kosher or is it all BS?
Originally posted by john_1234
I agree big time with Social Engineering. He hit the main point right on the head! Those books for women will not work! No ****ing way! If she isn't pretty, if I'm not attracted to her physical, there is absolutely no way in hell I'll fall for her.
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THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING A GIRL CAN DO TO MAKE US FEEL ATTRACTED TO HER IF WE DON'T FIND HER PHYSICALLY ATTRACTIVE.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.