You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
That is soooo ****ing true. We sure may be glad that women don't judge us on our looks as much as we do with them. Let's face it, the ugly women will never get a great lover. They may get a nice (desperate) husband, but they'll never going to get a great lover (without the help of mr. plastic surgery)I agree big time with Social Engineering. He hit the main point right on the head! Those books for women will not work! No ****ing way! If she isn't pretty, if I'm not attracted to her physical, there is absolutely no way in hell I'll fall for her. Even if I wanted to and tried! I guess that's an advantage us guys have over girls. We might not be that physically attractive to her, but we can do things to make her feel attracted to us. A girl on the other hand, if we don't find her physically attractive (and she's reached her max on the ten scale, meaning she's at the best she could possibly be without losing anymore weight, boob job, etc.), then there's absolutely nothing she can do to make us feel a genuine attraction to her. She can study Mark Matthews material and other stuff 10 X more than we study this **** and she still won't get any where. THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING A GIRL CAN DO TO MAKE US FEEL ATTRACTED TO HER IF WE DON'T FIND HER PHYSICALLY ATTRACTIVE.
I've been very fortunate in life in that I've never had a hard time meeting women or getting dates... but finding a woman who can keep my interest and attention has always been a different story...
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
definitely true. At best, she can become a friend.Originally posted by john_1234
I agree big time with Social Engineering. He hit the main point right on the head! Those books for women will not work! No ****ing way! If she isn't pretty, if I'm not attracted to her physical, there is absolutely no way in hell I'll fall for her. Even if I wanted to and tried! I guess that's an advantage us guys have over girls. We might not be that physically attractive to her, but we can do things to make her feel attracted to us. A girl on the other hand, if we don't find her physically attractive (and she's reached her max on the ten scale, meaning she's at the best she could possibly be without losing anymore weight, boob job, etc.), then there's absolutely nothing she can do to make us feel a genuine attraction to her. She can study Mark Matthews material and other stuff 10 X more than we study this **** and she still won't get any where. THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING A GIRL CAN DO TO MAKE US FEEL ATTRACTED TO HER IF WE DON'T FIND HER PHYSICALLY ATTRACTIVE.
This is a blatant lie that society has been brainwashing you with. Women are very, very simple creatures. They work more on emotion and less logic when it comes to attraction. That's about it. They're still human like men.Originally posted by Social Engineering
Woman are way more complex.
Emotions are complex, so essentially he is right. And I don't think they work with less logic if you say they're simple they do indeed work with logic. They just can incorporate their emotions quite well when it comes into play which is also can be their weakness if they lose control over it.Originally posted by TillTheEndOfTime
This is a blatant lie that society has been brainwashing you with. Women are very, very simple creatures. They work more on emotion and less logic when it comes to attraction. That's about it. They're still human like men.
Originally posted by DonJuanMonk
I just wanted to say that anyone who has a last name Italiano-style is a sleazeball.
Just wanted to let you know.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
In a way this is right, but look at it this way. We as men, try figuring out women with logic, when they don't necessarily work on logic. So we're really using the wrong tools for the job. Any job can look more complex than it really is when you use the wrong tools. Try tightening a screw with a hammer, you'll find it is pretty difficult.Originally posted by DonJuanMonk
Emotions are complex, so essentially he is right. And I don't think they work with less logic if you say they're simple they do indeed work with logic. They just can incorporate their emotions quite well when it comes into play which is also can be their weakness if they lose control over it.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Most posters on this thread suffer from selective listening/reading. Or ADD.Originally posted by Tweek_1984
Wow, this is pretty suprising.
So is DeAngelos material still kosher or is it all BS?
Originally posted by john_1234
I agree big time with Social Engineering. He hit the main point right on the head! Those books for women will not work! No ****ing way! If she isn't pretty, if I'm not attracted to her physical, there is absolutely no way in hell I'll fall for her.
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THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING A GIRL CAN DO TO MAKE US FEEL ATTRACTED TO HER IF WE DON'T FIND HER PHYSICALLY ATTRACTIVE.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.