"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
NOChrizZ said:
I like the, "i never bothered to ask"... I know You saw the video
Talking slow with pauses... gets really good responses and dramatic moments
You actually might be surprised when you call her because, she might not even seem interested,,,,
call her and re-game her on the phone..
I personally stopped MM ...
but when I used to do it , I would re build rapport with her on the phone first, DHV material, and Interesting openers...
then I would Ask her to join me But deff not MCdonalds..
ask her to tag along for something to eat thats it...
:rock:
the problem is I can't take her to myplace and I can't drive. How should I regame her on the phone? Oh and should I rather take her to a bar?Slick101 said:NO
I like the, "i never bothered to ask"... I know You saw the video
Talking slow with pauses... gets really good responses and dramatic moments
You actually might be surprised when you call her because, she might not even seem interested,,,,
call her and re-game her on the phone..
I personally stopped MM ...
but when I used to do it , I would re build rapport with her on the phone first, DHV material, and Interesting openers...
then I would Ask her to join me But deff not MCdonalds..
ask her to tag along for something to eat thats it...
:rock:
ps: why did u stop using MM?
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Same day? LOL...ChrizZ said:
If Your game is THAT tight LOL... plus if theyr sluts.. LOL..
its not gonna work...
Re game her on the phone meaning talk to her.... tell her DHV personal stories then she'll start telling you stories...
Connect with her using the same respones LIke ME 2!!!!
I stopped MM Cuz It actually was hurting me when I approached gorgeous woman..
Im a good looking guy as I would say and I like to use Direct Style that matches my personality and looks...
I like Bad Boys Method I suceed with 10's Directly
I called her and roflmao, she acted like she was receiving signals from outter space.
her: "hello?"
me: "Hi, it's me, ChrizZ your favorite customer. What r u doing right now?"
her: "Who? Emm, I'm hanging out with some friends of mine at my house."
me: "Hey, I'm going to a bar tonight, do u wanna tag along?"
her: "Ehmm.... I got a boyfriend, I'm not interested"
me: "Oh, ok.... well it was good talking to ya"
ROFLMAO that was the most awkward conversation I ever had in my life.
lol I will go to Abercrombie tomorrow and infront of everyone I'll be like: "Hey Cindy, could u please stop calling me. I officially break up with you."
I'll do that just for kicks. Although I got rejected big time I had a laugh over it with my golfing buddies. Tomorrow I'm going to a party. More FRs coming soon!
zerocelcius
Master Don Juan
It's successful in a way that u gain experience and figure out what works and what doesn't. Obviously u r right, u should never hit on girls while they're working.zerocelcius said:
I'll just try my best to become wealthy so that I can get escorts lol
zerocelcius
Master Don Juan
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
i knew You would do this :yes:ChrizZ said:
You could have actually had a chance with her if You builded rapport first, not go directly to business :woo:
Learn from the mistakes, I think thats the best advice :yes:
he meant building rapport before you even got the #. another thing to do is instead of getting the phone # set the date up in person.ChrizZ said:
"hey you seem like you're fun, im going to a party in ______ saturday night and meeting a bunch of friends there, you should come with me"
if you want to be funny send her a text message "hey that was smooth pretending like you're not interested because your boyfriend was there, so when do you want to go out?"
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Exactly right, Bman had a good point too...ChrizZ said:
Set up a date as soon as You meet them... this way she can be looking forward to it and remember you.. from any other guy that approached her before (or approaches her)
As a next rule,,, remember to get the number after 15 min of talking to her and remember the IOI's...I mean thats what MM is about
No! I mean I'm done with all these PU tactics and all that BS. From now on I will straight up tell ANY person what I think of them without apologizing. Goddamit, I now know why I never got any pu$$y. It was because I never asked for it and beat around the bush all the time...Slick101 said:
I'm a man of value, trapped in a cage full of fear and social conditioning. To be free, I need to break out of that cage!