"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Cleared it with the mods! A thread I’ve wanted to do for years. Post your real life picture let the community help fix your looks!(completely optiona)

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Well done, you have a great face and really nice teeth. You even look happier and more fun to be around in the second picture
Yeah, Sponty looks like a great guy to be around in the 2nd shot, it wasn't just his looks that improved. Really great job and I hope he keeps going and keeps it up, I'm feeling uplifted just by seeing his demeanor in the pic haha.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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We have a similar body structure, I’m a tad more lean. I wouldn’t think you’d have a problem with the ladies in this picture, you look very strong. How tall are you?
5 11 was in a ltr at the time so idk ,but its way easier right now a bit smaller a lower bf.

I use to do some heavy weight low rep training ever hear of Sheiko trainings?
Very good for size imo

My brother at about same size at the time but 6 2 women were throwing themself at him.

Height was never a problem for me, but i could see the difference with my taller brother.

This is me now at 39 20200214_140351.jpg
 

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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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5 11 was in a ltr at the time so idk ,but its way easier right now a bit smaller a lower bf.

I use to do some heavy weight low rep training ever hear of Sheiko trainings?
Very good for size imo

My brother at about same size at the time but 6 2 women were throwing themself at him.

Height was never a problem for me, but i could see the difference with my taller brother.

This is me now at 39 View attachment 3484
Man, you are very nice looking man. I hope I look that good at 39. Your chest is impeccable. Never heard of sheiko training but I also achieved my physique with a lot of low rep high weight.
405 x 5 deadlifts x 3
315 x 5 bench etc
I like the way you look with stubble as well.

what are your target dating ranges? I bet you’d clean up with 25-32 year olds.
 

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You guys are all good looking dudes. If you’re having trouble with OLD, I’d say it’s picture quality more than how you look. Try a professional photographer. Get the lighting and things right. It will help a lot.
 

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Something like this 44C9959B-0E0A-4F20-8394-46B0B1568E5E.jpeg
I tried, but im not a stud like the fine man pictured!

I rarely use a razor, electric for trim and shave... I always have stubble. The ladies love getting the nipples tickled by the 'stach and then roughed up from the stubble. Its a winning combo.
 

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Man, you are very nice looking man. I hope I look that good at 39. Your chest is impeccable. Never heard of sheiko training but I also achieved my physique with a lot of low rep high weight.
405 x 5 deadlifts x 3
315 x 5 bench etc
I like the way you look with stubble as well.

what are your target dating ranges? I bet you’d clean up with 25-32 year olds.
Bench has always been my weakness i got to 325 x1, 315 x3 was probably.my max.

Did 495x1 squat and 535 x1 on dead when i was at my best right now im lower
Dont have as much time for the gym.

Took that pic today after trimming my beard,
I dont like it that short. Usualy its longer.

Im not that much of a dj, so i mostly go after women in my social circle.
But i often see some ioi when going out, i went as low as 29 last year. Been seeing a 36 y for a few month now, will see how things goes.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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You guys are all good looking dudes. If you’re having trouble with OLD, I’d say it’s picture quality more than how you look. Try a professional photographer. Get the lighting and things right. It will help a lot.
I feel like I despise OLD too much by now to do that even if it would work, my brain has been conditioned against it. I'll stick to real life, whether that makes me celibate or not.

One of the very few girls I've met off of OLD did say she was nervous when we first met because I looked better than my pictures. But I think the first two pics I posted in this thread are pretty good, and those are the ones I used most recently when I still got fvck all. If that's not good enough for their royal tastes, I'd rather just not bother than feed their out of control narcissism. Chad can have them, it's OK. Pvssy isn't worth spending energy dealing with that shyt over just focusing on my own course.
 
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@zekko when you post, I picture a young Mr Rogers for some reason. That’s just my mental image of you
The sniper version? Nope, it's totally old Mr. Rogers here.

Maybe I should change my avatar...
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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That low bf is most likely all dedication.
Yea that’s 100% clean eating.. protein and veggies & no alcohol .. doesn’t look like roids. That’s a man with superhuman self control also good genes.
 

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i wish i could workout, or lift, or run...

the only physical things I can really do is walk/hike, swim, bike and fvck
 
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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